Good questions!

A good spectrum analyzer would answer questions about the flash of EM radiation 
of the Rossi tests.  I assume he knows the answer and that gammas are not 
produced that would otherwise harm the observers.

However, I doubt the flash is the result of a large energetic (Mev-scale) 
nuclear transition with gammas that are somehow perfectly shielded as suggested 
by Axil.

The idea of an LENR with emphasis on “LOW ENERGY” is an  important feature of 
the source of energy in the Rossi reaction.

The flash that has been  observed by many folks IMHO is an initial ionization 
of Li atoms and formation of a significant electrical current across the dusty 
plasma  of the Rossi reactor.  A charge may  accumulate rapidly on the 
population of nano-Ni particles as individual LENR happens to the various 
particles.  The flash may be the signal used by the control system to change 
resonant conditions to reduce the LENR transition probability in the population 
of nano-Ni particles to avoid high temperatures and nano-particle sintering.

Bob Cook

From: Roarty, Francis X <>
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 4:56:28 AM
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:fueled vs. unfueled LENR systems

Axil, your distinction does answer my question whether the polariton condensate 
alone is a source of LENR, you are saying polariton condensates and nano 
geometry of metal surfaces can produce LENR and dangerous gamma radiation alone 
without any fuel. I know you mentioned the super absorbtion/radiance features 
of a polariton condensate as a thermalizer/downshifter but wasn’t sure if the 
“pumping source” was over unity or you were just using external energy to 
create a polariton condensate shield / radiator to activate fuel contained in 
the cavity. Was the claim of a Gamma spike in early Rossi demo possibly an 
example of pumped polariton condensate where pockets of the nickel powder metal 
surfaces were starved for fuel or it simply hadn’t yet loaded into the lattice?

From: Axil Axil []
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2018 4:05 PM
To: vortex-l <>
Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:fueled vs. unfueled LENR systems

I would like to draw a fundamental distinction between two classes of LENR 
systems: Fueled and unfueled systems. In the 2011 time-frame when Rossi saw 
gamma, he was running an unfueled system,so was Piantelli and Celani. Russ 
George is now experimenting with an unfueled system.

The development of LENR fuel came latter as an innovation by Rossi. I speculate 
that Rossi found that when he reused ash from his reactors, they were very LENR 
active. Rossi perfected LENR fuel and started to use it in his tube reactors. 
The fuel was self contained and could be loaded in air. With this fuel, the 
hydrogen nickel reaction did not seem to matter anymore. Lugano is an example,

Also gamma commissions went away when using LENR Fuel.

I beleive that the active agent in LENR fuel is ultra dense hydrogen. Rossi, 
me356, the ECCO reactor and the LION reactor all use LENR fuel. Gamma will not 
come from these systems since ultra dense hydrogen is a superconductor. UDH has 
a near perfect Q factor and forms a condensate immediately and instantly.

I have advised any LENR reactor builders who will lessen to produce LENR fuel 
directly by acquiring a Holmlid UDH generator. Just load that UDH into a tube 
reactor and you are good to go.

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