Redefining the language in mid-stream always makes exchanging ideas difficult. The long standing convention is that all neutrons have the same mass, the binding energy in collections of nucleons in different nuclides varies.
Everything gains mass as it approaches the speed of light. -----Original Message----- From: mix...@bigpond.com <mix...@bigpond.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 10:42 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:The PP fusion reaction in LENR In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 21 May 2018 11:00:54 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Russ <russ.geo...@gmail.com> wrote: > >Might you point to a reference where the mass of neutrons in deuterium vs. >> other nuclides is said to be different. >> > >I do not understand. Is the claim here that a neutron in deuterium is >heavier or lighter than a neutron in some other element? Yes (heavier), that's what I'm suggesting. > There are >different kinds or neutrons, or entering deuterium changes the mass? The latter. The energy release from the nuclear reaction has to came from somewhere. I am simply saying that it comes from the conversion of part of the mass of the constituent particles. > >That seems extremely unlikely to me. Then you need to explain where the fusion energy comes from. (I'm counting addition of a neutron to a nucleus as a form of fusion). Note that the formation of D from a free proton & a free neutron releases only 2.2 MeV of energy whereas at the other extreme, addition of a neutron to a Ni nucleus releases about 8 MeV of energy. Hence my conclusion that neutrons in Ni have lower mass than those in D. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk local asymmetry = temporary success
