The first question I usually ask in a construction material store. It
this made in China? The same for sanitary products or household machines
that contain parts made in China.
I want to avoid to buy rubbish!
But in UK where the local industry is on the same level as China and you
can only choose between UK-rubbish or China rubbish. Most things we need
can be fabricated with robots today. The initial investment might be a
bit larger than going to China but worst: All the net profit is under
control again. Currently the China business is attractive because nobody
can control any fake invoices inside China and fake export prices they
charge the local distributor in our country. Net margins - in relation
to customers price - usually are between 500 and 2000%.
This has nothing to do with economic power its simply broad range fraud.
1987 Switzerland started the first fully automated assembly of the
famous swatch. All parts are smaller than the I-phone parts and total
cost when leaving the factory were 5.- Swiss francs/watch.
Why is Apple going to China for theh I-phone assembly?? Albeit we can do
everything they need since more than 30 years????
Answer is simple: They parked about 50'000'000'000$ undeclared (not
taxed) net income, offshore. The whole China story is about cheating
western democracies and paying hidden bonus to the top management and
more tax-free benefits to investors. How top management fraud works can
be learned from Gohsn that headed Nissan/Renault and at least has stolen
100'000'000$.
J.W.
Am 25.03.20 um 21:52 schrieb Lennart Thornros:
Michael I think your analysis is correct. However that does not mean
Jones is wrong rather support his position.
I have advocated your position for a long time. However over the last
20 years I have concluded ; the West cannot compete with countries
that ha substantially lower production costs. That means we will have
to acknowledge that the rest of the world has the right to build there
standard to the same level as the West.
We did have, but it slowly becomes less valuable, an infrastructure
and organization capacity well above the rest of the world. Long time
experience. My thinking has been to sell that capacity and have
knowledge , more worth than lime even, and contribute that knowledge.
However we seems to not understand that 100 companies with 3 employees
provide more job than a company with 100 employees. I think highly
specialized small business can beat any competition. Instead we have
supported big business and government organizations and built them as
big and inefficient and ineffective as possible.
Yes I understand that there are exceptions but they are few and far
between. Look on the 2 trillion stimulus package we are spending most
of it goes to big business because when they fail society don't want/
cannot take their fall.
If we don't act our knowledge will not be competitive and I guess we
will be behind.
Lennart
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020, 16:02 Michael Foster <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I hate to be the one to tell you this, Jones, but China has been
stronger than the U.S. for some time. The massive manufacturing
infrastructure created in China is far greater than the U.S. has
ever achieved. Factors such as average income, GDP, etc. are just
financial indicators. Publications like MarketWatch, Bloomberg ,
etc. simply measure monetary transactions. We have now a
financialized economy, practically no economy. We sell each other
financial products, insurance stocks, consulting, etc. and think
we are doing something.
I like to measure an economy in terms of lime production. If you
think about it, lime is the basis of civilization. The ancient
Romans denuded the forests of Europe and Britain in order to
produce lime from limestone and oyster shells, used to make
mortar, glass, concrete, and iron. The ancient Egyptians had
covered those massive pyramids with lime based stucco so they were
blinding white. You get the idea.
I have no figures on lime production in China, but they produced
more concrete (you need lime for that) in the last three years
than the U.S. did in the entire 20th century. Their electrical
generation surpassed the U.S. years ago. Ditto steel production.
They build entire cities for a million people in three years flat,
including high speed rail connecting to them. Many of them are
still unoccupied, referred to as ghost cities. No doubt they will
eventually be occupied.
Meanwhile, in California, we try to build a single high speed rail
line connecting Los Angeles and San Francisco and it becomes
bogged down in bureaucracy, minority set-asides, corruption,
over-regulation and political correctness with the result that
billions are wasted and nothing will be built. If the U.S. doesn't
regain its position as a manufacturing powerhouse and the
parliament of whores we call our government doesn't stop selling
us out to China we are finished.
On Wednesday, March 25, 2020, 06:03:44 PM UTC, Jones Beene
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
China will emerge from the coronavirus crisis stronger than the
U.S., experts warn...This is the headline from the MarketWatch
newsletter... They make a good case for the shocking prediction,
whether you like it or not.
China is going back to work now - as of TODAY even Hunan is off of
the "stay at home" rule. They will be back to work so as to have
more than a three month headstart on the USA (most likely). This
can make a huge difference.
Hmm... was such a scenario as this is turning out to be --
predictable? Perhaps predictable by an AI?
If so - let's say that a country which wished to overtake the US
as the leader of the World economy - had developed an AI which
foretold this scenario and how to pull it off. Lets say the
simulation was rock-solid and always came back with the same
result. This creates an opportunity.
With a population of 1.5 billion, would it not make good economic
sense, never mind the humanity, to engineer a virus and start it
at home... but it is engineered to have the traits which would
favor a desired end-game ?
The sacrifice to do this was less than 5000 souls, which is almost
insignificant in the Big Picture. we have been killing off that
many every month for some time with opiods. Thank you very much
Big Pharma.
Even if this economic good fortune was not planned out and did not
happen, and there is zero proof that it did happen, the lesson
here to remember is that it could happen. And not just in Sci-Fi.
Maybe it could happen next year and/or ... maybe it is Putin who
is actually pulling the strings... and not the Chinese..
Jones
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