On Sun, 27 Aug 2006, John Berry wrote: > There are indicators against this being a scam though, first the fact that > they have already patented useful (security) technology, have millions of > dollars, investors and if they are shown as pulling off a scam they will be > totally sunk.
Why? If the FTC walks in, the people behind it will probably already be on a plane out of the country. If they already have investors money in their hands, it would be hard for them to be "sunk." > (scammers would be unlikely to put so much on the line, well > not on the line but more correctly sacrificed) What have they put on the line? Effort, of course, but all con games take effort. Some of them take lots of organizing. This would pose no problem if the rewards were large. > Also they are not asking for any investment this side of verification by a > Jury of 12 so they would need to somehow fool or rig the jury unless they > want to be asking for investment after the jury of 12 have decleared it > doesn't work. I'm assuming that they have scored enormous amounts of investment already. The latest publicity ploy could of course be legit. Or it could be part of the scam. They could easily be taking investors, yet loudly announcing that they will not. Or they could be taking new funding from their current investors, while not accepting new invesTORS (just accepting new investMENT.) Time will tell. I hope. If its a scam, and they just suddenly drop out of sight, would we even hear about it? > Given these facts while I think the 'scientific verification' route is > foolish I don't think scam really adds up. Scientific verification is worthless unless they hand over their secrets for independant testing. Having people come onto their turf is more a trick of stage magic. If you went in and tested their devices, would you be *certain* that there was no exotic energy transmission method powering it? Heh. Sufficiently advanced power transmission is indistiguishable from Overunity. Now if they're going to hand over devices two twelve skeptics, that's different. (((((((((((((((((( ( ( ( ( (O) ) ) ) ) ))))))))))))))))))) William J. Beaty SCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 425-222-5066 unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci
