Jones,
My criticism was only directed at your thread [Vo]:It all began in 1932.
> Harry,
>
> "Persuasion" is NOT my goal, and that could be the rhetorical
> problem
> you are experiencing. "Discovery" is one goal, but "Truth" is the
> overriding goal, and persuasion implies something going beyond truth.
>
> Speculation is only helpful to the extent that it can open-up
> someone's
> eyes, including the speculator's! - to an underlying truth, or at
> least
> a pathway to such, which is NOT self-evident from what they have
> learned
> in an educational process which is hampered by tradition and
> short-sighted understanding of all options.
>
Even if you enjoy a far sighted understanding of all the options, in the end
they are still YOUR options, not mine.
> Sorry to annoy you, but that process of sequential speculation:
> and the
> setting-up of "straw men" followed by others knocking them down
> with
> logic or counter-speculation, used to be what this forum was good for.
>
> Jones
Go back to exploring your options. After all this is vortex.
Harry
>
>
> Harry Veeder wrote:
> > Jones,
> > I am more annoyed than offended.
> > You may take offense to my critical remarks concerning your
> > rehtorical style. I don't think it is wise to use
> > speculation as a means of persuasion. This what I meant by
> "excessive> speculation."
> >
> > Harry
> >
> > Modes of persuasion
> >>From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> >
> > The modes of persuasion are devices in rhetoric that classify
> the
> > speaker's appeal to the audience. They are: ethos, pathos and logos.
> >
> > Aristotle's On Rhetoric describes the modes of persuasion thus:
> > Persuasion is clearly a sort of demonstration, since we are most
> fully
> > persuaded when we consider a thing to have been demonstrated.
> >
> > Of the modes !
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