Hmmm... Ya don't think that higher oil prices are due to (1) greed, and (2) the 
holy purpose of holding the world by the balls until the Caliphate is 
established (ie - the West succumbs financially and goes down the tubes)?  It 
seems that the scientific idea of cause and effect is somewhat inapplicable to 
the situation as you see it.  Got a migraine?  It's Israel!!!!!  It's the 
Jews!!! (Take your pick.)

Actions violating modern standards of behaviour?  Exactly what standards?  I've 
been practising the martial arts for close to 30 years, and I can tell you how 
best to handle murderous thugs... including those populating that great tax 
waster, the UN.  Like I said before, if a person wants to harm my family or 
myself, I will spare no effort to put an end to him.  Perhaps you should think 
of what your gut reaction would be in that kind of situation.  I venture that 
if a thug - any thug - came at you or your wife to commit mayhem and you had a 
gun handy, you couldn't get to it fast enough.   If not, you're not a normal 
human being.  This is the human condition.  Survival. Not theological or 
historical arguments.

No more walking passively into cattle-cars toward death, surrounded by thugs.

Open your eyes Ed.  That is, if you want to... which doesn't seem apparent.  
Too much education and worship of the intellect, perhaps; try using your 
intuition.  Works also for solving Cold Fusion and other energy-related 
problems.

To the others at Vortex; I didn't want to prolong this nonsense, but I simply 
won't stand by passively when I see lies and hypocrisy in front of me. It's 
called defamation, and it's been going on for a long time.  And it's going to 
have to stop, or there will be horrendous problems.

So I apologize to all.  

P.



----- Original Message ----
From: Edmund Storms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:31:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds



thomas malloy wrote:

> The return of the Jews, the conquest of the land, it's subsequent 
> prosperity, the hatred of the Arabs, their refusal to get over the 
> indignity of the loss of that part of their conquered land, the Liberals 
> support of Islam. IMHO, It's all supernatural.  BTW, comprise will get 
> no where with the Islamists, it's counterproductive.

If this is the case Thomas, Israel better have God on its side because 
otherwise the country is doomed. This conclusion is obvious to any 
rational person, not just liberals. Here is a small country that is not 
self sufficient without outside aid and is surrounding itself with walls 
to protect itself from its neighbors. Meanwhile, it is surrounded by a 
hostile population that is growing richer and increasing in numbers. At 
the same time, the rest of the world is being significantly 
inconvenienced by the consequences of the conflicts in the area, i.e. 
higher oil prices. To make the situation worse for Israel, its actions 
violate modern standards of behavior, as shown by the various UN 
resolutions, both passed and proposed, that condemn its behavior. Surely 
these facts must concern all Jews and Christians. At some point, 
theological and historical arguments simply won't work any more. How 
long must people wait until this reality becomes obvious?

Ed
> 
> Edmund Storms wrote:
> 
>>  God's will. We are to believe that the Jews are more favored than the 
>> Philistines by God and that the moral teachings of Christ allow such a 
>> conquest.  This is not a normal conflict!  In addition, even if we 
>> ignore the moral issue, the practical issue of Israel being able to 
>> survive while being surrounded by angry people who have access to 
>> rockets needs to be considered. Granted, Israel has won the pitched 
>> battles. But, will they win the war without compromise?
>>
>> thomas malloy wrote:
>>
>>> Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> R C Macaulay wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Howdy Vorts,
>>>>>  
>>>>> Gosh, golly, gee folks, here we go again with the Jews and arabs. 
>>>>> This time the "wedge" is oil. The USA 
>>>>
>>>>
> 
> 
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