On Jul 16, 2008, at 6:36 PM, Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:36:21
-0800:
Hi,
[snip]
It the above is correct, then it will not be possible to collect gas
from the flame, which I think Bill Beaty already suggested.
[snip]
However it should be possible to collect gas if it is never ignited.
I think the Na and Cl should reunite in gas mode, because they have
differing charges, and the hydration water released as water vapor/
steam. The structure of the hydration layer is not as strong as a
quasi-molecule out of solution. Even if the hydration layer doesn't
break down on contact, I expect the contact, at the lower energy part
of the Boltzmann tail, of the two will be maintained by van der
Waals forces and condensation will rapidly occur. In either case the
gas condenses back into a solvated solution, unless lots of H2 and O2
are liberated. The question then is whether a closed circuit path
exists for violating the Second Law, and it would appear in the first
case that might be possible and in the second case not. I guess the
odds are slim for ou by a Second Law mechanism.
Best regards,
Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
