On Jul 16, 2008, at 7:42 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
--- Horace Heffner wrote:
I think the Na and Cl should reunite in gas mode,
because they have differing charges, and the hydration
water released as water vapor
That could happen. There could be several things going
on at the same time.
Then there is the resonance angle: What about "mostly"
Na being released (and disproportionately less Cl),
assuming that the RF is indeed resonant for the Na -
... along with that layer of surrounding polarized
water (as you mentioned in prior posting) ... after
which the Na can grab an OH or a proton from the mist,
and what is left is combustible too.
Yes, indeed. This results in residual lye instead of salt. There is
probably more or less of this kind of reaction depending on the salt
concentration. An NaOH creating reaction can also be driven by the
formation of HCl in the arc/flame (i.e. due to mostly Cl in the arc/
flame.) I would indeed expect different reactions to dominate at
differing NaCl concentrations. Kanzius said the reaction works all
the way down to 2% NaCl, so I see the role of NaCl at that low
concentration being mostly catalytic, acting as an antenna of sorts,
because a 2% concentration would be quickly exhausted otherwise.
This means that at low concentrations the Na and Cl must either stay
in the brine or return quickly - thus leaving the "flame" to be
mostly H2 + O2 or just a water arc.
I think using a closed cell scheme or at least running to completion
and taking a net weight of residue, using differing starting
concentrations, is pretty important to understanding the mechanism.
It should be added that BLP's new reactor, which has
generated so much hoopla -- depends on a "gainful"
reaction of NaH - so that could be an alternative way
the LoT could be violated.
Jones
BLP has't closed the loop, except though a manufacturing process
though, has it?
Best regards,
Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
