Rick Monteverde wrote:

>> If that were true, weather forecasting computer programs would not work.

You are correct. You've heard of Lorenz, of course. The programs only work
for a very brief time before their results degrade to useless noise, so they
are only good before they reach that point . . .

Local weather forecasts degrade because they are detailed. Nowadays they can make a weather forecast months or even years ahead for large areas such as the entire Pacific Ocean, or the trends for the whole of Japan for several months, which is now predicted with astonishing accuracy on NHK.

My point is that if experts did not understand the detailed physics of the atmosphere, they could not make detailed weather forecasts at all. That was the case until the 1960s. Even after satellite photos became available weather forecasts were not reliable until the physics and computational models were improved.

Furthermore, you are ignoring the fact that the global warming experts predictions have come true in the world is indisputably growing hotter rapidly, as Ed pointed out. You do not need a computer to see that. Just look at melting ice, the level of the Inland Sea, or the average temperature of the Pacific ocean water and atmosphere surrounding Japan. Local temperatures vary of course but over large landmasses and extended periods they have been going up. To deny such first-principal observations is to go traipsing off into the cloud-cuckoo land of the cold fusion deniers who do not believe that thermocouples and thermometers work.

- Jed

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