When the hell did Steorn ever say they are open-sourcing it!  Geez! They have 
investors and this is
a commercial venture... "Evil capitalists!"  Gimme a break...

FYI, the design of the unit is so simple, and replicators have been able to 
deduce most of the key
elements of the device, including the number of turns on the coils (~37) from 
the videos!! From the
measurements of inductance AND the measurements of magnet strength (0.47T) that 
WERE IN STEORN'S
DEMO, replicators have determined the most likely core material (MetGlas?) and 
its characteristics,
as well as other key things like POSITIONING of the coils being very precise, 
which is necessary to
eliminate CEMF; and more that I don't have the time to spoon feed you... Go 
read the material on
Overunity.com about the replication attempts... Don't underestimate them!  They 
are quite a
resourceful bunch and have figured much of it out... Mostly due to the FACT 
that Sean has made very
specific statements in his demos, and has gone out of his way to answer 
technical questions on the
Steorn Forum.  Replicators have made very significant progress in as little as 
two to three WEEKS!
That's more than I can say for any other claims of this kind.

And no, the short time did not start in 2006, it started exactly when steorn 
said, which was the
first Demo in December.  And the schedule goes thru January.  They set the 
schedule back then and
have held to it; they have done exactly what they said they'd do.  As explained 
in one of my
previous posts, Sean made the call to do the public thing in 2007 and ended up 
with egg on his face;
the other steorn engineers were not yet ready to demo it as they didn't have a 
good handle on what
all was going on.  So they spent the last two to three yrs doing experiments to 
understand enough of
it where this time they are confident that things won't blow up in their face! 
Do you really think
that they will risk global ridicule a second time???  No freakin way, and if I 
was one of the
engineers, I sure as hell wouldn't hang around to risk that level of 
ridicule... 

-Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: William Beaty [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:41 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010, Mark Iverson wrote:

> I don't believe any one here criticising Steorn and calling them 
> scammers has made an attempt to replicate their device... Correct me 
> if I'm wrong.

What is the website link for complete Orbo details?

> Just sit back and relax, and watch and read, and in a very short time 
> we'll see how well the device and explanations hold up to what they 
> are claiming...

The "short time" began, what, in 2006?    Why do you think it's going to 
be short?  Seriously.  When did Steorn say any such thing?

Again, what is the website that gives Orbo details?  Before anything else, I 
want to see what Steorn
has to say about the toroid core material and the number of turns, source of 
neo magnets they used,
etc.


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