Hi

I have been thinking about this phenomena for years. I wonder if cold fusion
and altered decay rates with high voltage is the same effect?

Actually since electric charge is quantized there will be electric fields
even inside electrical conductors. Only when the numbers of protons and
electrons are the same in a volume there will be no electrical fields. If
there is an excess or shortage of electrons compared to protons there will
be strong gradient fields on a very small scale in a material. These
electrical gradients cause an atom nucleus to have its stability changed. In
this regard the electrical potential has a real physical meaning and is not
just something that the electric field can be derived from.

One thing which these apparently nonphysical electrical potentials cause is
electrical quadrupole radiation from atomic nuclei that has their rotation
slowed down.
See for example
http://www.americanscientist.org/issues/feature/2005/1/explosives-detection-with-nuclear-quadrupole-resonance/6

I am no expert but this subject on cold fusion and electrostatically altered
decay rates is something I have been thinking on for a long time.

Neither of the Rich Murray links works.

David

On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Michel Jullian <[email protected]>wrote:

> But Rich, like others who mentioned this before (as I recall Mike
> Carrell did), is right that the component of the internal field due to
> the *externally* applied DC Electric field in some SPAWAR experiments,
> through insulating walls, should rapidly reach zero in the electrolyte
> and stay there.
>
> I suggested at the time that what might be operative in modifying the
> cauliflower like structure of the deposits was the AC component of the
> field due to the HV supply's unavoidable ripple voltage at its
> switching frequency (typically 20 kHz), however small it may be. A
> simple way to test this hypothesis would be to use a high voltage
> capacitor instead of a HV supply.
>
> Michel
>
> 2010/2/23 Stephen A. Lawrence <[email protected]>:
> >
> >
> > On 02/22/2010 10:32 PM, Rich Murray wrote:
> >>
> >> Extraordinary Error -- no electric field exists inside a conducting
> liquid
> >> in an insulated box with two external charged metal plates, re work by
> >> SPAWAR on cold fusion since 2002 -- also hot spots from H and O
> >> microbubbles: Rich Murray 2010.02.22
> >> http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2010_02_01_archive.htm
> >> Monday, February 22, 2010
> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/astrodeep/message/42
> >> _____________________________________________________
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Each charged plate attracts enough ions of the opposite charge right to
> >> the side of the conducting electrolyte against its insulating wall,
> until
> >> the
> >> charge on the plate is exactly balanced -- thus each side is a separate
> >> charged capacitor, connected by the "wire" of the liquid.
> >>
> >> All the electric field exists only in the insulating walls of the two
> >> capacitors -- no electric field exists inside the liquid.
> >
> > This is true only so long as no current is flowing through the liquid.
> >
> > Just as in the case of a wire, if there's current flowing in a
> > conducting liquid, then there's an electric field in the liquid, as
> > well.  (Otherwise, what do you think makes the ions move?)
> >
> > It's a common *approximation* to say there's no E field in a conductor
> > but it's not generally true, save in electrostatics.
> >
> > My general impression is that electrolytic cells used in CF experiments
> > do indeed have a current flowing through them.  Therefore there is also
> > an electric field present throughout the region of the electrolyte
> > between the electrodes.  :-)
> >
> > If the experiments were done with a superconducting electrolyte the
> > story would be different, of course.
> >
> >
>
>


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