On 03/18/2010 12:35 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > > > Stephen, > No you didn't miss anything. > I think the issues you raise are being discussed in the thread: > http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8892.0 > I don't think he is behaving like Stiffler.
Sorry, I shouldn't have drawn that comparison. :-( > > He is aware that he still has not provided unambiguous > evidence of OU. In the thread he claims he ran it without > the meters got the same effect. Eh? I don't understand. I thought the only interesting effect here was what was being shown by the meters ... Am I going to have to to the overunity forum to get a handle on this? sigh... > > > > Harry > > > > ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Stephen A. Lawrence <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Thu, March 18, 2010 9:25:35 AM >> Subject: Re: [Vo]:add on: OU demonstrated ( with no secrets) >> >> > > On 03/18/2010 12:45 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: > >> ----- Original >> Message ---- >>> From: Stephen A. Lawrence < >> ymailto="mailto:[email protected]"; >> href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]> >>> To: >> ymailto="mailto:[email protected]"; >> href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected] >>> Sent: Wed, >> March 17, 2010 2:58:11 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:add on: OU demonstrated >> ( with no secrets) >> >>> Even with the battery hooked up, it >> would be so easy for the guy >>> to measure current drain from the >> battery, and measure current into >>> the caps, multiply by the input >> and output voltage values, and >>> compare the power in and power out -- >> but he didn't do that; >>> obviously he doesn't want to find out what's >> really going on. >> >> He does this near the end of test 6: >> >> >> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UflGpzijWIA >> >> and asks for an >> explanation how 3 volts peak to peak or 562mV rms >> can charge the >> capacitor to 17 volts. > > Does what -- makes simultaneous voltage and >> current measurements and > determines power output of the battery(s), and the >> signal generator, and > power input to the capacitors, and compares them? >> I watched a good bit > of the video, and skipped around looking for that (it's >> a bit long > IMHO), but I didn't see anything like it. I saw him >> measuring voltages > and I heard him refer to the voltage as being "energy" >> (which it's not) > but I didn't hear anything about amps, watts, or actual >> power drain. > > Did I miss the power measurement? Did he actually do >> it somewhere? I > don't think he did, but if he did, what did he >> find? How did input and > output **power** compare? > > As to his >> question -- how could such a low input voltage (which he > called 'energy', as >> I recall) produce such a high output voltage -- it's > disingenuous. He's >> got a transformer there, duh. > > And as to the input -- he's using a heavy >> duty signal generator in this > video, if my eyes do not deceive me. Turn >> it around, you'll probably > find the back is covered with heat sinks. >> That's a very serious power > supply there, and again, he hasn't measured the >> *current* it's putting > out, so he has no idea how much power is being >> injected into his circuit. > > Without knowing input power, the rest is just >> hot air. As I already > observed, it's just like running a CF experiment, >> and claiming excess > heat, but never using a calorimeter, and never measuring >> input > electrical power. > > > > >> >> note: he simplified >> the input circuitry from test 4. >> >> >> Harry >> >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________________________ >> The >> new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for >> Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at >> href="http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/"; target=_blank >>> http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ >> >> > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > http://www.flickr.com/gift/ > >
