Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:

> Well, something has to drive the circuit. The whole thing will stop
> dead otherwise. That would be like expecting a Fleischmann Pons cell
> work without first doing electrolysis.

No, it wouldn't. It would be like expecting a circuit which produces electricity without requiring a battery to run without using a battery.

The guy who did the video claimed the battery was providing no power to the circuit. So, it must be possible to remove the battery.

I hope you don't mean "remove the battery and leave nothing -- no capacitor." That seems unreasonable to me. The guy seemed honest but likely mistaken. If he says the thing does not work without the circuit (as I assume he would), then it would be fair to ask he replace the battery with the capacitor -- but not fair to demand he remove the circuit. That would reduce the machine it to a lump of copper wire, which obviously cannot produce anomalous electric power.

I cannot view YouTube videos at my office (which is a blessing), and to be honest I do not know enough about electronics to judge this. But it seems to me the last thing on the circuit before roll of copper is a mosfet, which is amplifying or switching power somehow. I assumed he meant it is not contributing a substantial amount of power, or enough to explain the reaction. I don't think he meant there is absolutely no power going in. I assume he thinks the circuit acts as a trigger or stimulus, like the laser used in some Fleischman Pons experiments. The laser adds a tiny amount of power to the cell, but not enough to explain the heat.


In the real world, yes, something has to drive the circuit. In the fantasy world of over unity transformers, no, there is no need for an external battery. I mean, for crying out loud, this thing is running on 12 volts DC, and it's producing 17 volts DC! There is *no* issue of "power conversion" losses getting in the way of closing the loop!

We agree on that. But he still has to substitute the capacitor for the battery. As a practical matter, he might need the battery there to rev it up, like a starter battery in an internal combustion engine.

Actually, the guy should have figured this out for himself. He should have anticipated this skeptical objection, which is entirely justified.

- Jed

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