On 03/17/2010 03:14 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
>
>> So, get rid of the battery -- I mean, *really* get rid of it, disconnect
>> the wires at the battery terminals, and carry it a good distance away
>> from the experiment --  and show the capacitor still charging itself up.
>
> Well, something has to drive the circuit. The whole thing will stop
> dead otherwise. That would be like expecting a Fleischmann Pons cell
> work without first doing electrolysis.

No, it wouldn't.  It would be like expecting a circuit which produces
electricity without requiring a battery to run without using a battery.

The guy who did the video claimed the battery was providing no power to
the circuit.  So, it must be possible to remove the battery.  It's as
simple as that -- either it is providing power, and it's necessary, or
it's not, and it isn't.  And the claim is made that it is not.

In the real world, yes, something has to drive the circuit.  In the
fantasy world of over unity transformers, no, there is no need for an
external battery.  I mean, for crying out loud, this thing is running on
12 volts DC, and it's producing 17 volts DC!  There is *no* issue of
"power conversion" losses getting in the way of closing the loop!  If
it's not drawing power from the battery, but it needs a DC power source,
then just wire the output caps back around to the input!

If the battery in a DC to DC conversion circuit like this is necessary,
then it's not OU.  And the battery is obviously necessary.  End of story.


>
> - Jed
>

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