the nature of your accusations leave no room for the truth. no matter what i say to this, you will continue believing that i am paid by the government of a country that i've never been in. if i explain and verify i've never been in the states, you will hastily whip out some "but they came to you and brainwashed you, didn't you". if i explain who exactly i root for(and try to support) (independent free energy inventors), you'll say its an elaborate debunker pseudoskeptic brainwash thing where i think im supporting them but am actually leading whoever-you-will to stop them, preferably cold in their tracks. if you're so far deluded that you think im a shill then i have absolutely nothing to say to you.
i joined vortex-l because i was interested in vortex / viktor schauberger -related discussions, for i've been following the lifework of Schauberger since 2004 or-so. i've been buying free energy books, dvds and digital downloads this way and that way to function as a library and an archive, and most of it is absolute toss (poor directing, poor cinematography, obtuse interviews with people are holding back, some good interviews with people who have unfortunately gotten used to thinking inside their heads instead of conversing about the topics directly.. let alone the endless propensity of whipping out the usual "but then the men in black came and destroyed everything" tale, whether true or not. i've seen free energy fanboys litter every video they can find with comments such as "you probably shouldnt post this stuff, you're going to get suppressed", others spouting trash on free energy videos about nwo-illuminati-the reptilian agenda, and yet more just "going in for a fight" - i.e. i've seen the pseudoskeptics fight the fanboys and the fanboys seek out the skeptics and send completely incomprehensible sentences this way and that way - all the while thinking they're convincing anyone at all with their hostile, destructive and namecalling arguments (and this is FE fanboys TO pseudoskeptics and debunkers.. mostly). but listen, if it makes you feel better to label me a shill for asking for actual references, then be my guest - there's nothing i can do to convince you. maybe you should do an online search for my name first.. so long story short: >by the way: ?Am I speaking with contracted Govt.-debunkers/hecklers/discreditors/here. no you are not, and even the suggestion is preposterous. On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 2:51 AM, Jack Harbach-O'Sullivan < [email protected]> wrote: > by the way: ?Am I speaking with contracted > Govt.-debunkers/hecklers/discreditors/here. If so: ?Will you tell us who > you are really working for; and how much they pay you to monitor vortex-l? > I'll call you for the Govt. disinformation schill/employee/stooge that you > indeed are. > you are seriously deluded; if not a Govt. disinformation shill altogether. > >
