No sweat:  Any country will do.  This knee jerk muppet-balcony heckler/heckle & 
jeckle drivel whether inspired by merely narrow-minded arrogance &/or 
particular 'agency' policy amounts to the same shallow insipid gruel; the 
routine snigger campaign is old news. Cheers~J~:-)
 


Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 11:06:42 +0300
Subject: Re: [Vo]:~Norway proof of concept/Man-made Man-played~
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]



the nature of your accusations leave no room for the truth. no matter what i 
say to this, you will continue believing that i am paid by the government of a 
country that i've never been in. if i explain and verify i've never been in the 
states, you will hastily whip out some "but they came to you and brainwashed 
you, didn't you". if i explain who exactly i root for(and try to support) 
(independent free energy inventors), you'll say its an elaborate debunker 
pseudoskeptic brainwash thing  where i think im supporting them but am actually 
leading whoever-you-will to stop  them, preferably cold in their tracks. if 
you're so far deluded that you think im a shill then i have absolutely nothing 
to say to you. 


i joined vortex-l because i was interested in vortex / viktor schauberger 
-related discussions, for i've been following the lifework of Schauberger since 
2004 or-so. 
i've been buying free energy books, dvds and digital downloads this way and 
that way to function as a library and an archive, and most of it is absolute 
toss (poor directing, poor cinematography, obtuse interviews with people are 
holding back, some good interviews with people who have unfortunately gotten 
used to thinking inside their heads instead of conversing about the topics 
directly.. let alone the endless propensity of whipping out the usual "but then 
the men in black came and destroyed everything" tale, whether true or not. i've 
seen free energy fanboys litter every video they can find with comments such as 
"you probably shouldnt post this stuff, you're going to get suppressed", others 
spouting trash on free energy videos about nwo-illuminati-the reptilian agenda, 
and yet more just "going in for a fight" - i.e. i've seen the pseudoskeptics 
fight the fanboys and the fanboys seek out the skeptics and send completely 
incomprehensible sentences this way and that way - all the while thinking 
they're convincing anyone at all with their hostile, destructive and 
namecalling arguments (and this is FE fanboys TO pseudoskeptics and debunkers.. 
 mostly). 


but listen, if it makes you feel better to label me a shill for asking for 
actual references, then be my guest - there's nothing i can do to convince you. 
maybe you should do an online search for my name first..


so long story short:


>by the way:  ?Am I speaking with contracted 
>Govt.-debunkers/hecklers/discreditors/here.  


no you are not, and even the suggestion is preposterous.








On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 2:51 AM, Jack Harbach-O'Sullivan 
<[email protected]> wrote:


by the way:  ?Am I speaking with contracted 
Govt.-debunkers/hecklers/discreditors/here.  If so:  ?Will you tell us who you 
are really working for; and how much they pay you to monitor vortex-l?  I'll 
call you for the Govt. disinformation schill/employee/stooge that you indeed 
are.
you are seriously deluded; if not a Govt. disinformation shill altogether.      
                                  

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