On Apr 16, 2011, at 10:01 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
Horace,
I'm glad that the post got through, because it is exactly on target.
If the steam was wet, then the result might yet still be OU, or
not, but why
not wait to pass judgment until it is done correctly?
The situation is way beyond just the need for "passing judgement".
This is a case of a lot of hoopla and maybe money changing hands,
when the basic science applied to the main claim, excess heat, is
laughable. The science applied to that issue is less than amateur.
Personally, I don't see any sense in wasting much time even
discussing further, because the evidence is so shabby. The whole
thing looks like a big joke at this point. It looks like a Barnum and
Bailey act, "the greatest show on earth!"
Rossi's main claim of utility is excess heat. Yet no one has made
any effort at even very basic calorimetry measurements on the output.
Estimating heat output is really very simple to achieve, as I have
noted here before. Simply direct the output into an insulated barrel
and keep track of the temperature. If the output is in the form of
steam, pre-load the barrel with cold water and run the steam trough a
copper coil in the barrel and sparge any steam output of the copper
coil by releasing it at the bottom of the barrel. Stir the water in
the barrel. Measure the temperature change of the water in the
barrel through time. Direct the water output from the top of the
barrel to a sink, as is done now. This is chidren's science fair
difficult. All that is required is a barrel with a water drain hole
and fitting installed at the top, and maybe some insulation, though
even that is not required if a no-flow temperature decline curve is
obtained after the experiment. The thermocouple presently used can
be moved to the barrel. A stirring device driven by a low wattage
motor could be used, but the water could even be stirred by hand
periodically. Measure the volume of water in the barrel.
I discussed the wet steam issue here back in January, and also
another simple cheap enthalpy measuring method, ice calorimetry:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg41703.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg41849.html
It is incredible that it could be expected that anyone would invest a
dime in this technology without even the most basic and inexpensive
science being applied to the most important aspect.
Best regards,
Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
