On Apr 16, 2011, at 12:21 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:

Horace Heffner <[email protected]> wrote:

http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm


I don't see where the calorimetry is documented there. I don't see where an overall energy balance was taken. Also, it was only a 6 hour test - pretty useless for due diligence.

You are looking in the wrong place. Scroll down to "Rossi 18-hour demonstration." The calorimetry is documented in as much detail as you find in any HVAC inspection sheet:

Duration of test: 18 hours
Flow rate: 3,000 L/h = ~833 ml/s.
Cooling water input temperature: 15°C
Cooling water output temperature: ~20°C
Input power from control electronics: variable, average 80 W, closer to 20 W for 6 hours . . .


You have to be kidding. This is supposed to represent a due diligence test??? Wow, there must be a huge market for a device that can heat water from 15°C to 20°C for 18 hours.


Attaching the inlet flow directly to a faucet - very scientific! Not being able to adjust the flow rate so a good delta t can be obtained - very professional! Still using a thermometer stuck down into the foil wrapping I suppose - how very transparent. Very sophisticated water mixing to be sure the input and output temperature measurements are correct - not!

Your argument against using a barrel of ice or cold water being too dangerous falls apart here too - the output temp s only 20°C.





The issue is not what technique is best, but the credibility of the whatever technique was supplied. What was supplied in the demos I read about . . .

Keep reading.


. . .were a joke.

Then you will find boiler maintenance regulations a laff riot.


Boiler maintenance regulations are irrelevant. What *is* relevant is what was actually done in the experiments. What exactly do you consider the link to be between boiler regulations and what was *actually* achieved. Until you establish that this argument is a red herring.


I do not think you understand this subject well enough to judge what is a joke.

- Jed

Ha! Laughable criticism, coming from a guy who can't keep track of the difference between mass and volume of water in steam:

http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg41901.html

It is unscientific to make the assumptions you are making. It is insane to invest huge sums of money without due diligence.

Your referenced URL states: "A company has been formed in Athens, Greece, Defkalion Green Technologies S. A., for the purpose of manufacturing and selling Andrea Rossi Energy Catalyzer cold fusion reactors. According to the Greek newspaper "Investor's World" and other sources, the company is capitalized at €200 million, which includes €100 million to be paid in as royalties, presumably to Rossi. The Greek press says the company plans to manufacture 300,000 machines a year for the Greek and Balkan market. The company website says it has exclusive rights to sell the machines everywhere except the Americas."

Where is there any evidence of such due diligence?

Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/




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