Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't know understand why there seems to be such resistance to the gain
> in
> this device being "only" in the range of COP 3-6 ?
>

There is resistance because we do not think you can casually throw away
calorimetry and pretend that industrial techniques and equipment such as
water heaters in widespread use do not work. You can't just make things up!

There is also resistance because you are claiming the error is by a factor
of a thousand. You are also claiming that experts in measuring energy are
making idiotic mistakes. If they can make idiotic mistakes, and if
calorimetry is as unreliable as you claim, then we have no reason to think
there is any excess heat at all. If they can be off by a factor of 1000,
leaving practically no heat, they can just as easily be off by a factor of
1006, leaving no heat at all. Heck it could be endothermic.

In any case, what you are describing could not be measured. Input power is
80 W. If output was 80 W * 6 = 480 W, given the flow rate of 1 L/s the Delta
T temperature would be 0.11°C which would hardly register with this
equipment. You can sure of a temperature 50 times greater than that, but
0.11 would be within the fluctuations and other noise.

Or do you suppose the flow rate was hundred of times less than they
measured, and less than the flowmeter registered? Or did the thermocouples
suddenly register wrong, after showing the same temperatures (zero Delta T)
before the machine was turned on?

You cannot propose *any* reason how such a large error can occur. The fact
that some "expert" who has never looked at a teapot or water heater thinks
there may be something wrong theoretically is no proof of anything.

- Jed

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