Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote: This is not a question of throwing away good data. > > > > It is a question of throwing away junk data and getting good data. >
You have given us NO INDICATION how or why this data is "junk." All you have done is claimed that you have theory proving that 12 kW tankless electric water heaters cannot work. Your theory is wrong. They do work. > Geeze Louise – Rothwell’s fallback argument is his electric teapot . . . > And the water heater, and the nuclear reactor. What is your fallback? Tell us why ordinary industrial calorimetry can be wrong by a factor of a thousand. > - and as for serious science he is content with clamp meters instead of > power analyzers and thermocouples instead of RTDs and datalogging – LOL. > Look, people test boilers hundreds of thousands of times a day with clamp meters and dial thermometers. In this situation, with these power levels, a $20 watt meter is as good as $16,000 one, or one that costs $20 million -- if there is such a thing. There is not the slightest chance the input power is significantly greater than 80 W. There is no chance the output is less than ~15 kW. Better, more sophisticated equipment will not prove this with any more significance than ordinary industrial grade equipment does. > Enough of this nonsense – we will resume this debate when we get expert > opinion . . . > Kullander is an expert. We have his opinion. You say he is not, but saying does not make it so. - Jed

