OK, There is only one way to end this kind of fruitless thread - and that would be a small wager to be based on the upcoming tests in Sweden.
Let's see . You say the COP is considerably over 30, based on first demo even though the Feb testing was much higher, is that about right? And I said that the error in wet steam / dry steam could have inflated the calculated P-out in that demo by triple, which would mean a COP of 10 or thereabouts, but probably less. What about this wager - the one who is furthest away from whatever the COP turns out to be in the new test - sending Bill Beaty $100 to cover the other's Vortex fee for the next decade? Jones From: Jed Rothwell * Better, more sophisticated equipment will not prove this with any more significance than ordinary industrial grade equipment does. Enough of this nonsense - we will resume this debate when we get expert opinion . . . Kullander is an expert. We have his opinion. You say he is not, but saying does not make it so.

