Mark Iverson <[email protected]> wrote:

> The only way to guage whether the steam flow is adequate is at the outlet
> of the chimney, NOT at the
> end of a 10 foot hose that has condensation going on inside it. . . .


That is correct.



> I believe that the demo for Essen and Kullander did make the measurements
> of the steam at the
> chimney...
>

They measured the steam quality at the chimney with the meter. I do not
think they actually saw the steam emerge directly from the chimney.

Many people have asserted that the two meters used in these studies do not
measure by mass, or that they cannot combine this measurement with the
temperature to measure enthalpy. They are saying the manufacturers of these
meters are wrong, and Galantini are wrong. I doubt it. In any case, the
second test proved that the steam is dry. All other discussion is
obfuscation, handwaving, unfounded accusations of fraud, and a waste of
time.

By the way, I have seen 30 kW of steam emerge from a pipe about 1 m from the
steam generator. It is impressive, but the plume is surprisingly small. The
vapor is visible ~30 cm from the end of the hose.

Wet and dry steam generators at dry cleaners are not that large. They are 2
to 5 kW. Here is a photo of a 5 kW wet steam stream:

http://www.chewinggumremovalmachines.com/wet-steam-gum-removal-pressure-washers.php

1.5 kW steam cleaners for home use are common. They do not produce an
impressive plume.

This looks like ~2 kW, used to clean an automobile interior:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_pcOgkRbfQ&feature=related

http://wn.com/ICanSteamCleanwow

- Jed

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