On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote:
> Mark Iverson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> The only way to guage whether the steam flow is adequate is at the outlet
>> of the chimney, NOT at the
>> end of a 10 foot hose that has condensation going on inside it. . . .
>
> That is correct.
>
>>
>> I believe that the demo for Essen and Kullander did make the measurements
>> of the steam at the
>> chimney...
>
> They measured the steam quality at the chimney with the meter. I do not
> think they actually saw the steam emerge directly from the chimney.
> Many people have asserted that the two meters used in these studies do not
> measure by mass, or that they cannot combine this measurement with the
> temperature to measure enthalpy. They are saying the manufacturers of these
> meters are wrong, and Galantini are wrong.

yes, the meters measure the humidity of air, not steam quality.
Galantini used the wrong instrument


I doubt it. In any case, the
> second test proved that the steam is dry. All other discussion is
> obfuscation, handwaving, unfounded accusations of fraud, and a waste of
> time.
> By the way, I have seen 30 kW of steam emerge from a pipe about 1 m from the
> steam generator. It is impressive, but the plume is surprisingly small. The
> vapor is visible ~30 cm from the end of the hose.
> Wet and dry steam generators at dry cleaners are not that large. They are 2
> to 5 kW. Here is a photo of a 5 kW wet steam stream:
> http://www.chewinggumremovalmachines.com/wet-steam-gum-removal-pressure-washers.php
> 1.5 kW steam cleaners for home use are common. They do not produce an
> impressive plume.
> This looks like ~2 kW, used to clean an automobile interior:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_pcOgkRbfQ&feature=related
> http://wn.com/ICanSteamCleanwow
> - Jed
>

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