On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote: > Mark Iverson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> The only way to guage whether the steam flow is adequate is at the outlet >> of the chimney, NOT at the >> end of a 10 foot hose that has condensation going on inside it. . . . > > That is correct. > >> >> I believe that the demo for Essen and Kullander did make the measurements >> of the steam at the >> chimney... > > They measured the steam quality at the chimney with the meter. I do not > think they actually saw the steam emerge directly from the chimney. > Many people have asserted that the two meters used in these studies do not > measure by mass, or that they cannot combine this measurement with the > temperature to measure enthalpy. They are saying the manufacturers of these > meters are wrong, and Galantini are wrong.
yes, the meters measure the humidity of air, not steam quality. Galantini used the wrong instrument I doubt it. In any case, the > second test proved that the steam is dry. All other discussion is > obfuscation, handwaving, unfounded accusations of fraud, and a waste of > time. > By the way, I have seen 30 kW of steam emerge from a pipe about 1 m from the > steam generator. It is impressive, but the plume is surprisingly small. The > vapor is visible ~30 cm from the end of the hose. > Wet and dry steam generators at dry cleaners are not that large. They are 2 > to 5 kW. Here is a photo of a 5 kW wet steam stream: > http://www.chewinggumremovalmachines.com/wet-steam-gum-removal-pressure-washers.php > 1.5 kW steam cleaners for home use are common. They do not produce an > impressive plume. > This looks like ~2 kW, used to clean an automobile interior: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_pcOgkRbfQ&feature=related > http://wn.com/ICanSteamCleanwow > - Jed >

