At 03:32 PM 6/22/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Joshua Cude wrote:
Putting aside who is the pre-eminent expert (you, or the guy who
designed the meter), you cannot argue with the second test.
Then why did they bother with the 3rd, 4rth, 5th, and 6th demo?
I suppose because different people wanted to see it. It is nice of
Rossi to let so many people in, even after he declared there will be
no more demos.
I wanted to see it myself, and I kinda wish I had gone instead of
Krivit. It is a shame that Rossi did not want to spend the whole day
letting me measure temperatures and do different tests. I would have
nailed this dispute, you can be sure.
Which may be precisely why Rossi did not allow it. He *likes* the
dispute, it is comfortable for him, it amplifies his sense of himself
against a world full of idiots.
And why didn't they use the method of the 2nd in the subsequent demos?
I don't know. I was hoping to see both kinds of tests.
The steam method does have a few advantages. It is easier to measure
the mass of cooling water. It demonstrates that the machine operates
at high temperatures.
Yes, I understand why they like steam generation. So ... it's not
hard to arrange a convincing steam generation demo that addresses the
problems. You knew how to do that, Jed. He wouldn't let you. I'm not
convinced that this was merely because he didn't want to waste his
time. He's wasted plenty of time with the demos, far more than would
have been involved in a convincing demo.
I'm ever more convinced. He's either a fraud (which I personally
consider unlikely) or he's deliberately (or perhaps subconciously)
creating an impression of a con.
I think it's fascinating, because it's the opposite of what we might
expect. We are accustomed to inventors desperate to show the world
that they have invented this amazing thing. Rossi isn't desperate to
show that. Is he pretending disinterest or is he for real? And I'm
assuming that, in fairly short order, we will know. We will know even
if there is some problem with the Defkalion delivery, which wouldn't
be surprising at all (under any scenario).
(If Rossi fails to deliver to Defkalion, and at the same time refuses
to allow better demonstrations, he's going to be hooted off the
stage, his support will collapse, etc. He may need to allow a
university test where the researchers -- under non-disclosure
agreements -- have full access. At least, even if the E-Cat is
sealed, they would have total control over everything conceivably
connected to the thing, and this silly steam quality issue will be
nailed, and the calorimetry will be conclusive.)
