Jeff, You still did NOT read my posting and the simple algebra that is needed... I can't spoon-feed you knowledge Jeff; I have pointed you at the explanation and you refuse to read it. You obviously aren't interested in learning...
You stated AGAIN: "yes, the meters measure the humidity of air, not steam quality. Galantini used the wrong instrument." AS I ALREADY STATED, I AGREE THAT THE INSTRUMENT DOES NOT MEASURE STEAM QUALITY! YOU"RE TOTALLY MISSING THE POINT! IT DOES GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION NEEDED TO CALCULATE IT THOUGH! THE INSTRUMENT DOES PROVIDE MASS OF WATER AS VAPOR, AND SUBTRACTING THAT FROM THE MASS OF WATER GOING IN WILL GIVE YOU THE MASS OF LIQUID WATER THAT IS COMING OUT!!!!!!!!!! Its ALGEBRA-I level math... -Mark -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Driscoll [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 11:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Vo]:E-Cat vs. Water Heater for coffee/tea... On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote: > Mark Iverson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> The only way to guage whether the steam flow is adequate is at the >> outlet of the chimney, NOT at the end of a 10 foot hose that has >> condensation going on inside it. . . . > > That is correct. > >> >> I believe that the demo for Essen and Kullander did make the >> measurements of the steam at the chimney... > > They measured the steam quality at the chimney with the meter. I do > not think they actually saw the steam emerge directly from the chimney. > Many people have asserted that the two meters used in these studies do > not measure by mass, or that they cannot combine this measurement with > the temperature to measure enthalpy. They are saying the manufacturers > of these meters are wrong, and Galantini are wrong. yes, the meters measure the humidity of air, not steam quality. Galantini used the wrong instrument I doubt it. In any case, the > second test proved that the steam is dry. All other discussion is > obfuscation, handwaving, unfounded accusations of fraud, and a waste > of time. > By the way, I have seen 30 kW of steam emerge from a pipe about 1 m > from the steam generator. It is impressive, but the plume is > surprisingly small. The vapor is visible ~30 cm from the end of the hose. > Wet and dry steam generators at dry cleaners are not that large. They > are 2 to 5 kW. Here is a photo of a 5 kW wet steam stream: > http://www.chewinggumremovalmachines.com/wet-steam-gum-removal-pressur > e-washers.php > 1.5 kW steam cleaners for home use are common. They do not produce an > impressive plume. > This looks like ~2 kW, used to clean an automobile interior: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_pcOgkRbfQ&feature=related > http://wn.com/ICanSteamCleanwow > - Jed >
