At 04:41 PM 6/22/2011, Mark Iverson wrote:
Abd wrote:
"I have no idea what Galantini is expert in. Do you know?"
Yes, chemistry.
-Mark
It is *claimed* that he is expert in chemistry.
However, he may be expert in other things. If his
only expertise is in chemistry, per se, he would
not be qualified as an expert witness on steam
quality. Chemists don't ordinarily deal with
that, unless their particular research requires
them to become experienced and expert.
I found a strange statement from Galantini, rummaging around
http://peakoil.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=60688&p=1062253
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:02:22 +0200
From: Greit Service Ltd.
Reply-To: Greit Service Ltd. [snip]
A: [snip]
Good morning, on the request made to me today,
as I have repeatedly confirmed to me that many
people have requested in the past, I repeat all
my measurements taken during the dozens of tests
to measure the amount of evaporated water is not
present steam produced by the generators in the
"E-Cat" have always been made by giving the
results in mass% used as the instrument
indicates the gr.of water per cubic meter.Steam.
I confirm that the measured temperature was always greater than 100.1 ° C.
And the pressure measured in the fireplace is
always found to be equal to the ambient pressure.
The instrument used during the tests performed
in the presence of Swedish teachers was as
follows: 176 Text Code 0572 H2 1766 .
The "Swedish teachers" were not present during
the January test, if I'm correct. They used their
own RH meter, the Testo meter. So Galantini may
be confused. Not a good sign. Maybe I've misunderstood something.
Now, Galantini apparently does have an
instrumentation company, see
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.greitservice.it%2Fchi-siamo.php
The fields mentioned on that home page don't
include steam quality or related issues. They are
more what I'd expect to be of interest to a chemist.
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.greitservice.it%2Fchi-siamo.php
Gives the equipment that this company uses.
Mentioned there is "System for sampling in the
workplace, and air emissions." My guess is that
Dr. Galantini had an RH meter handy! That does
not indicate that he *ever* used this for measuring steam quality.
He certainly did not explain his measurements to
Krivit, he only answered the really bogus
question about mass and volume. In the absence of
any numbers, and only an implied answer from
Galantini, which might be a verbal comment he
made to someone in January, the mass and volume
question is completely irrelevant. In the
Kullander and Essen report, there are some
numbers (1.2-1.4%) which clearly, from how they
used them, were thought to be mass ratios, they
assumed that the numbers, read from the meter or
calculated from what the meter read, represented
the percentage of water mass in the steam sample
that was present as liquid water. Which the meter
is not designed to report, it appears.
What we don't know is how they obtained these
numbers. They did not state the instrumental
readings. (The instrument they used has a mode
which reports in g/m^3, which could only be
converted to mass of "whatever it is that the
machine reports" by knowing the volume involved. And they didn't measure that.
Krivit, unfortunately, did not ask Kullander the
important questions, being stuck on this mass/volume thing.