At 04:41 PM 6/22/2011, Mark Iverson wrote:
Abd wrote:
"I have no idea what Galantini is expert in. Do you know?"

Yes, chemistry.

-Mark

It is *claimed* that he is expert in chemistry. However, he may be expert in other things. If his only expertise is in chemistry, per se, he would not be qualified as an expert witness on steam quality. Chemists don't ordinarily deal with that, unless their particular research requires them to become experienced and expert.

I found a strange statement from Galantini, rummaging around

http://peakoil.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=60688&p=1062253

Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:02:22 +0200
From: Greit Service Ltd.
Reply-To: Greit Service Ltd. [snip]
A: [snip]

Good morning, on the request made to me today, as I have repeatedly confirmed to me that many people have requested in the past, I repeat all my measurements taken during the dozens of tests to measure the amount of evaporated water is not present steam produced by the generators in the "E-Cat" have always been made by giving the results in mass% used as the instrument indicates the gr.of water per cubic meter.Steam.
I confirm that the measured temperature was always greater than 100.1 ° C.
And the pressure measured in the fireplace is always found to be equal to the ambient pressure. The instrument used during the tests performed in the presence of Swedish teachers was as follows: 176 Text Code 0572 H2 1766 .

The "Swedish teachers" were not present during the January test, if I'm correct. They used their own RH meter, the Testo meter. So Galantini may be confused. Not a good sign. Maybe I've misunderstood something.

Now, Galantini apparently does have an instrumentation company, see http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.greitservice.it%2Fchi-siamo.php

The fields mentioned on that home page don't include steam quality or related issues. They are more what I'd expect to be of interest to a chemist.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.greitservice.it%2Fchi-siamo.php

Gives the equipment that this company uses. Mentioned there is "System for sampling in the workplace, and air emissions." My guess is that Dr. Galantini had an RH meter handy! That does not indicate that he *ever* used this for measuring steam quality.

He certainly did not explain his measurements to Krivit, he only answered the really bogus question about mass and volume. In the absence of any numbers, and only an implied answer from Galantini, which might be a verbal comment he made to someone in January, the mass and volume question is completely irrelevant. In the Kullander and Essen report, there are some numbers (1.2-1.4%) which clearly, from how they used them, were thought to be mass ratios, they assumed that the numbers, read from the meter or calculated from what the meter read, represented the percentage of water mass in the steam sample that was present as liquid water. Which the meter is not designed to report, it appears.

What we don't know is how they obtained these numbers. They did not state the instrumental readings. (The instrument they used has a mode which reports in g/m^3, which could only be converted to mass of "whatever it is that the machine reports" by knowing the volume involved. And they didn't measure that.

Krivit, unfortunately, did not ask Kullander the important questions, being stuck on this mass/volume thing.

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