You are tired of discussions and number crunching? You are in the wrong place. Come back after cold fusion is commercialized and the whole world agrees it is real.
Actually, I suppose this discussion group and LENR-CANR.org will be defunct when that happens. Kind of like "homebrew computer" clubs after the IBM PC was introduced. What you demand here is a commercial-product demonstration: > Now, install these radiators in free air and measure the water flow and the > delta_th and absolute temperatures and log them. > Let it run non-stop for 24 hours. This would be a practical real life > experiment and the result would not need much interpretation and discussion. > Yes of course that will convince everyone. I suppose that if Rossi could do this, he would, since he says commercial success is the most important metric. If Defkalion's claims are real, they will soon be in a position to do this. I am sure they are not wasting time or delaying an effort to do that. If you want to know why they have not done this yet, the answer is probably: Because it is harder than you think. Harder than you imagine. Harder than you *can* imagine. That is why, for example, computer artificial intelligence does not yet exceed that of human beings. Not because it is impossible, but because it is very hard to accomplish. Most technology is much harder to create than most people realize. This is why many engineers and scientists think the public is a collection of ignorant ingrates. You cure a deadly disease with a vaccination, or give people god-like power to fly across the world in 14 hours, and within 20 years people complain that your vaccination hurts, or that it has adverse affects in one out of 20 million cases, and they complain that your airplane still takes 14 hours instead of only 4 hours. People are never satisfied. I suppose that is a good thing, because if they were satisfied, progress would come to a halt. - Jed

