If anyone can get some reasonable dimensions for the components involved I
can do a solid model finite element analysis to figure out the relative
temperature split.

It is really perturbing that the initial temperature measurements up to
about 11:50 have a 4.3°C temperature difference between the inlet and outlet
of the secondary, and even at max power it only rises to about 7.2°C -
obviously a huge temperature error, which in itself and alone makes all the
secondary loop data totally unreliable.

On 14 October 2011 19:38, Alan J Fletcher <[email protected]> wrote:

> The vortex mailer  truncated the changed link in the message.  Sorry ---
> I'll re-send the whole thing:
>
> I've put up a couple of sketches to explain Horace's/my resistor thermal
> model
>
> Detailed manifold schematic -- but the thermocouple isn't on THAT nut.
> http://lenr.qumbu.com/111010_**manifold_001_h1200.jpg<http://lenr.qumbu.com/111010_manifold_001_h1200.jpg>
>
> http://lenr.qumbu.com/111010_**pics/111014_manifold_001.jpg<http://lenr.qumbu.com/111010_pics/111014_manifold_001.jpg>
>
> A) A rough diagram of the manifold, ignoring junctions between sections
>    (which I think are 2nd or 3rd order).
> B) A first physical approximation as a tube with wall thickness T
> C) 2-resistor model  Vt = (100-30) * R2 / (R1 + R2) ... R proportional to
> distance.
> D) Triangulated model (21 R's in my spreadsheet) .. with the lower ends of
> the resistor stepped along the tube
>     One group connects to 100C, the other to 30C
>     Each group of resistors has a value 1/R = sum(1/R) .. which can be
> plugged into the 2-resistor model.
>
> To do :
>
> http://lenr.qumbu.com/111010_**pics/111014_manifold_002.jpg<http://lenr.qumbu.com/111010_pics/111014_manifold_002.jpg>
>
> E) Tubular mesh
> F) Full-body mesh
> G) Mesh with heat storage
>
> I've seen models with one capacitor to ground, and models with a capacitor
> across each resistor.
>
> I have Spice installed on my system, and I can easily generate a mesh
> network for it.
>
> I also have an idea on how to model the heat transfer for laminar fluid
> flow in each arm.
> There's at least a 40:1 (600:15 litres/hour) difference in flow.
>
> (I also have the free Elmer FE software on my system, but I'm learning how
> to use it. I'll check their examples.)
>
>
> ps Off to print my tax forms ....
> pps added a googlable signature
>
>

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