On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 4:35 AM, Mary Yugo <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'd be interested in running a gig PA with that smaller generator of his. >> Then I'd know it's all useful. I still can't believe that none of these >> people ever organize a "plug your phone in here to charge it" type >> demonstrations. It's always good to have them do something understandable, >> some work which a layman can comprehend. They can comprehend solar >> umbrella charging stations at festivals, cos they can plug in their mobile >> devices and have them charged. While it's probably great to sell to >> customers who give you a load o' money for a large device, sometimes >> thinking small is worth it too. >> > I have previously suggested a much better demo for Rossi. He should let > himself be flown to a high mountain top cabin or tent up in the Alps with a > couple of E-cats (one as a spare), some hydrogen and nickel, and food and > water. No heater. No stove. No warm clothes... in fact preferably no > clothes at all. I'd give him an emergency radio. Let's see how long he > stays during a cold winter. > Look, this isn't reasonable. You'll now say "you say it isn't reasonable, because you know the tech doesnt work!", but that's not it. The reason this isn't reasonable is because it isn't humane. Would you jump at a chance to be taken away to a secluded place and left there, by a bunch of people whom you don't know, who don't trust you and whom you don't trust? What are the chances we'd see a quick article saying "Andrea Rossi completely flipped in the helicopter and jumped out and died", and then you could start going off about how unhinged FE researchers really are, how deluded and irrational, etc. What you describe is tantamount to kidnapping. That's not the way to go about it. Let Rossi demonstrate whatever he has, his way. You aren't even serious with a suggestion like this. No thinking human being would go for your suggestion. You wouldn't, either. This just shows your attitude towards things. It's flippant, sarcastic, and you don't consider these human beings human beings at all. "Hey Rossi, why dontcha get naked, jump in this helicopter with your devices and be in a secluded hut for a while? You'll be safe with your device, right? ha ha". What's missing is a couple of your LOLs. You call me a staunch believer. That is decidedly weird. Can you not >> comprehend that some can be optimistic, positive and hopeful for new >> technologies, be they coming from Thane C. Heins, Steorn, Andrea Rossi, >> John Bedini or any of the other people, yet still want to invest in devices >> only after they're available and do provable work? > > I can't understand being optimistic about any of these people because they > have no credible evidence that anything they do works. Bedini's stuff > can't and doesn't work -- it's "free energy" from magnets. That's just > bulldokey. I'd have to look up Heins but I think it's in the same category > and you already what I think of Steorn and exactly why. > You can't decide on Thane C. Heins before you look up what he's done regarding Regenerative Breaking, Regenerative Acceleration and Back EMF. Actually, you can, but that's just your gut feeling which you will manifest as an opinion. In my opinion, these are the most promising people out and about right now. YMMV. You know, I don't expect you to do any research. You will always be a deconstructivist. If you were serious about John Bedini, you would have attended the Renaissance Charge convention back in 2010 and the second one in July 2011. They were giving kits out to the attendees, and instructing on how to build them. Get your feet wet before using MythBusters as a reliable source for disregarding John Bedini. :) I suppose you can't comprehend why I'm hopeful and see promise, for the >> same reason as I can't understand your emotionally hostile attitude towards >> Rossi, replete with sarcastic "humor", ad hominem attacks and, frankly put, >> pointless hatred. You're the same as you were with Steorn. >> > Right. In Steorn's case, please explain to me why they took 20+ million > Euros of investor money and made dozens of claims and promises not a one of > which ever was proven true to this very day. > What do I know about 20+ million euros and Steorn? Nothing, that's what. What do you care about 20+ million euros of investor money? Was it yours? Keep your nose out of other people's business, even if your main project in life is to stir excrement in a pot and lob it at people. > I guess the main problem with all of this stuff is that noone has done a >> good, solid website presentation on a device which is already finished and >> can be purchased by consumers. Until someone does that, none of the others >> will know better - they'll still be picking the brightest cyan background >> and that cool looking Comic Sans font. >> > You're joking, yes? I can't really tell. It's not these people's web > sites that are the problem! > I'm dead serious. It is exactly the web skills and the internet skills and the lack of computer skills that's the problem. Most of the mailinglists for FE stuff are still stuck on YahooGroups, which is another nineties throwaway. They can't give a keynote presentation without messing up, can't post emails without getting logged out (and blaming the MIB!). They don't know how to attach files. They don't know how to link files. Some of them don't even know when they've pasted the right URL to an email. Some of them respond to the whole digest and keep responding until a one line response comes with 500 lines of needless text. They're masters at failing at promotion, distribution, convincing others, describing their technology, take your pick, they fail at everything. Demonstrations, etc. This will eventually change, but when? You have your stock negative answer, I have my stock answer of "Hopefully very, very soon."
