Given that 99.999% of certainty flukes are seen, - are commonly seen in experiments with complicated statistical analysis,
2011/11/19 Daniel Rocha <[email protected]> > I am sorry, there is no such paper. So, like you say in the other, it will > be an endless cycle of discussion. > > Anyway, as I see it, the objection to LENR is of theoretical basis, since > it would apparently require that nearly all nuclear physics would have to > be abandoned to conform with experiments which always shows small excesses. > This is like 3 years ago when the violation of the speed of light was seen > with a certainty of 95% at the MINOS experiment. But it wasnt taken > seriously because since it was blatant violation of speed of light and > something much more crazier than cold fusion. Given that 99.999% of > certainty flukes are seen, this was ignored, although measuring speed is > something that even with lower certainty is harder to ignore since it is > less prone to statistical uncertainty, in most usual experiments. Mind that > given that neutrino experiments deal with simpler statistics than in larger > experiments, lower confidence levels are usually taken more > seriously. Now, that was seen in another experiment, OPERA, at 99.99999% > (6 sigma or so) of certainty, people start taking it slightly more > seriously. > > Now, with those guys, it seems to me that nuclear physics doesnt need to > be falsified, so I am OK with research in LENR. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Mary Yugo <[email protected]> > Date: 2011/11/19 > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Gain from the "cold side" > To: [email protected] > > I'm sorry but if the above information is for me, I don't care about > theoretical papers very much. I have no problem with the potential > feasibility of comparatively low temperature nuclear reactions. Perhaps > that's because I am not a nuclear physicist but either way it's fine. I am > not looking for information on why it might happen. I am looking for a > "killer" paper that proves it *did* happen. I keep hearing from Jed > Rothwell and others that such papers are around but whenever I look at > something about cold fusion it's usually theoretical. >
