On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Mary Yugo
>
> > I'm still looking for that one "killer" paper that shows long sustained,
> well measured, clearly presented, plots of excess energy vs time that could
> not possibly have come from some other place -- say by three orders of
> magnitude or so  (nuclear processes could most likely produce even more).
>
> Have you seen such a paper for hot fusion? They have run through almost $20
> billion by last count, so why no 'killer paper' or even a convincing
> experiment that points to financial justification? LOL.
>

Let me see if I understand this.  If hot fusion doesn't work that means
that cold fusion does?  How does that happen?

Anyway, hot fusion works exactly as predicted for the current stage of
research.  I don't see the issue.  Nobody has worked out how to adequately
confine the plasma to get useful output yet and it is extremely expensive
but it obviously works.  Nobody said it would be quick or cheap.   People
say that about Rossi not about hot fusion.

Cold fusion is supposed to be about table top devices that make large
amounts of excess energy far greater than can be accounted for by any other
source.  That's what I want to see.  I will look at the suggested papers
but it doesn't sound from the accompanying remarks as if they're killers.
That's what the field needs to get respect -- one killer experiment.

See, that's the strange thing here.  Rossi would be the killer clearly and
easily if he could prove he's real.  And many enthusiasts here resist every
attempt to compel him to do so and instead make lame excuses for why the
guy acts like a typical free energy scammer right down to his secret
clients, large orders from people who won't be identified, none from people
who will, refusal of a reasonable test from a trusted colleague who worked
with him before (Celani) and association with promoters of *obvious* scams
such as the Schneiders, Sterling Allan and Hank Mills!  That's CLASSIC
behavior for a scam!

If you care to have cold fusion accepted into the main stream and if you
believe Rossi is real and right and honest, put pressure on him to prove
it.  Jed put pressure on Rossi.  You should too instead of helping him get
a free ride.  Don't resist reasonable requests from skeptics!  Embrace
them!

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