----- Original Nachricht ----
Von: Peter Gluck <[email protected]>
An: [email protected]
Datum: 28.11.2011 06:19
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Elevated-temperature excess heat production in a Pd & D
system in 1991
> I spoke with Liaw at ICCF-2 Como 1991. The system had very great problems
> of corrosion.
>
> Rule No. 6 of problem solving says: NOT the main desired positive effect,
> but those secondary negative and/or undesired effects decide in most cases
> if a solution is implemented.
>
> It seems corrosion was so severe that this way was abandoned..
>
Technical problems are not important, these are almost ever solvable if the
reward is high.
History has shown this. We are on moon now, and everybody has a mobile phone
and we have GPS and Laser.
Impossible?
So, why dont they publish their findings? Possibly others find a solution.
It would be important to have a key experiment that is repeatable and that
works.
There is an unfortunate mechanism:
First they publish success.
This is is euphorical accepted by the LENR community and makes the way into
their collection of papers.
Then they continue their research and find unexpected problems or find errors.
They give up.
Of course this is not published.
This is why there are so many positive results.
This is also the mechanism why there are so many positive results about UFO's
and unicorns. ;-)
It seems most documented LENR successes are of this type:
Unfinished stories about an anticipated success that never was tested and
confirmed beyond all doubts.
Peter
> Peter
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> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:01 AM, Alan Fletcher <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > It was in the 1990 paper :
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > Liebert's still around :
> > > http://newenergytimes.com/v2/archives/fic/F/F199010.PDF
> > > 1990 : EXCESS HEAT USING MOLTEN-SALT ELECTROCHEMICAL CELL
> > > By Professors Liaw, Tao, Turner, & Liebert
> >
> > As an example shown in the last entry in TABLE I, the power to
> > the heating tape was maintained at about 69.25 W, the cell
> > potential was typically in the range of 2.45 V, and the
> > electrochemical input power was about 1.68 W at 692 mA/cm2
> > for a total input power of about 70.9W. We would expect 1.68
> > Wof joule heating to result in a 5.1 °C increase in temperature;
> > however, the temperature increased by 82.4° C, which
> > corresponds to a gain of about 27.1 W, according to the
> > calibration curve. Therefore, a net gain of 25.4Wwas in excess,
> > which results in an excess power gain of 1512 percent, in the
> > range of 627 W/cm3 Pd.
> >
> >
>
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> --
> Dr. Peter Gluck
> Cluj, Romania
> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
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