Maybe you do not understand my position in this question.  I am not convinced 
that there is a large power increase that you speak of.  Horace has produced a 
graph and a method that should be able to answer that question.  If it is in 
fact there, his technique should reveal it.  Do you argue with FEA?  It is not 
my curve, I can only reference it to help people understand the solution to the 
partial differential equation which is far more complex than my or even your 
gut feelings.

That is why I refer you to it, this is not my fight.  Apparently you love to 
disagree with anything that I state, whether or not you agree with it.  This is 
strange behavior.  And you wonder why I choose not to have these discussions 
with you?  I see you have a base of groupies that you like to keep happy, but 
that is a poor reason to conduct false scientific discussions.

Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua Cude <joshua.c...@gmail.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Mon, Nov 28, 2011 11:17 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Large Temperature Increase of Core Not Required for 6 to 1 
Output Delta





On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:59 AM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote:

You misread the graph.  Ask Horace to help you understand what it shows as he 
has the program that answers your question.  Direct any further inquires to 
him. I am confident he can straighten your problem out.
 
A graph is worth many words Cude.  It is clear that a large instantaneous fixed 
heat source generates a delay which is followed by a rapidly increasing 
gradient.  Look at the graph more carefully.
  





In other words, you don't have a clue what the graphs mean, and you're hoping I 
don't either. But I do. In the first graph, a step increase in the power input 
at x=0, results in a very *gradual* increase in the temperature gradient at the 
water interface over several hours. The next graph shows the power transfer 
(proportional to the temperature gradient) increases slowly to about half the 
power input over about 3 hours. The graph he put in at the end involves active 
controls, which I didn't look up, but although power spikes occur there, they 
are extremely narrow, and not at all consistent with the step increase needed 
to explain Rossi's claims.

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