It is strange that anyone would want an unproved and expensive device.  I 
suspect that Rossi thinks that he can work with NI and stabilize the thing, and 
this may be true.  My personal opinion is that some serious engineering work 
will be required to make the system safe and repeatable.  If I were Rossi, I 
would be looking into a method of core cooling that is active and powerful.  
The core itself probably should be operating in the thermal run away mode to 
get the COP into an acceptable range while the cooling needs to be able to 
prevent additional heat energy from resulting in much higher core internal 
temperature.  The approach used by Defkalion appears to address my issues.  
Their design includes a very tight thermal control of the core region by the 6 
coolant paths.  To startup, they would reduce the coolant flow to a minimum 
allowing the electrical heater to easily raise the core temperature.   Once the 
core reaches an unstable temperature, it will begin to heat rapidly on its own. 
 At that point the coolant flow rate can be increased to absorb the excess heat 
and achieve the final desired operating temperature.   All of the heat energy 
required to keep the device operating would now be supplied by the core.   The 
overall COP at this point is infinite in the core itself, but the control and 
pump energy drains would make the net COP as specified.

Rossi may not understand the problems that he faces in this task.  Actually, no 
one may really know at this point.  The model I am using is quite simple, but 
makes sense to me.  That is no proof that it is accurate however.

Why would we expect Rossi to reveal to us his major problems?  Most engineers 
assume that the problems will be defeated sooner or later and see no reason to 
air the dirty laundry.  He has a positive outlook and has overcome many 
obstacles in his life and these issues appear minor in comparison.   To him, 
the solutions most likely seem just a little way off.

Dave 



-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Yugo <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Jan 22, 2012 3:01 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Opponents should please go away and form your own group





On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 11:55 AM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote:

Mary, there are serious problems with Rossi's demonstrations that we are all 
aware of.  It is apparent to me that he has a very difficult problem trying to 
maintain stability of the power output and I have been doing some interesting 
simulation that tends to support this claim.  The October 6 test data shows a 
clear fingerprint of LENR heat production which I hope to explain soon.  All of 
the other models that I have seen thus far do not respond in a manner that 
comes even close to explaining the anomaly.  These models have been based upon 
energy storage and release from a large mass of material inside the smaller 
cube.  A better explanation for the curve can be obtained by assuming that a 
large peak of excess thermal energy is released at the end of the drive cycle 
due to an inherently unstable thermal run away process that is quenched just 
before it becomes unstoppable.




If so, shouldn't Rossi be telling us that?  Do you think he told his anonymous 
customer who supposedly bought **13** "power plants" consisting of some 600+ 
individual modular units?  Do you believe there is such a customer?  Is someone 
really that dense?   What would 13 such things possibly be used for?

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