I just want to inject a thought about the NAE regions.  The current flowing 
within the device and the electrolyte will induce a magnetic field within the 
active metal.  At the moment I am not aware of any attempt to control the 
direction of the lines of force that are present and wonder if this might be 
one of the secret ingredients controlling the reaction.  It might help explain 
why the same wire behaved differently at various times since this variable in 
uncontrolled.   There were experiments that indicated that an external field 
modified the plating and pitting.

Just a thought.

Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>; vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Jul 19, 2012 9:02 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:defkalion considering to leave Greece (?)


At 07:09 PM 7/19/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:

Well, Jed, you may be right. However, when I wrote that Pons and 
Fleischmann only had one out of six cells work -- I really don't 
recall where I got that idea, and it might be from later work, 
whatever -- I was immediately corrected with a claim from someone 
who was active in the field at the time that they *all* worked, 
until they ran out of the original material.

I don't recall hearing that happened to F&P. But it did happen to 
several others. McKubre, I think. He later used a long wire in 
loading tests. As I recall he did not even cut it. I may be wrong 
about that. Anyway, he pre-treated the whole thing and then tested 
sections of it. He found they had very different characteristics! 
There is no better proof that we do not understand Pd in detail, and 
that More Research Is Needed. This also demonstrates that material 
is the key and materials are variable for unknown reasons.
The whole field was nailed to the crucifix of "reliability." Once a 
orrelated effect was known (helium), reliability was almost 
rrelevant, all that was needed was to set up an experimental series 
ith some percentage of cells showing adequate excess heat. 
ifficult, still, but lots of researchers did it. And those that 
idn't, and that still also measured helium, still created more data 
or the showing of heat/helium correlation.
In any case, it's known *reasonably well* the reasons for the 
ariability with palladium. It is obvious that palladium shifts in 
anostructure when loaded and deloaded, in addition to structural 
ariations from pre-experiment fabrication. The most clear evidence 
or material variability is SRI P13/P14, where the *same cathode* 
wice showed no heat, highly loaded with deuterium, then, the third 
ime, same conditions repeated, showed a clear excess heat response, 
ay above noise, standing out from the hydrogen control.
Storms may be right about cracks being the NAE. It makes sense. When 
he cracks are too large, the material is too leaky, it won't reach 
he necessary loading. When they are too small, or the material is 
erfect, no reaction. The loading stresses the material and it 
racks, but that's not very well controlled, it's difficult to 
eproduce exactly.
I've suggested plating palladium on a substrate that can be 
ylindrically deformed in a controlled way, to create rows of 
ontrolled cracks that might be open and closed by changing the 
eformation radius. If ideas were horses....
I *am* hot on the trail of a "tell," a sign (not known to be nuclear 
n itself) that might be useful to detect CF reactions in the FPHE 
ithout full-on calorimetry. We'll see. This field often leads down 
lind alleys. But this idea seems to have woken a few people up. 

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