The speculation is pretty reasonable. While I prefer to leave all the cards on the table until we know more, I'll say that the behavior of Rossi and DGT has been consistent with a hypothesis that Rossi did see some kind of major heat effect, and maybe even had some cells -- or a single cell -- show long-term heat.

Do people here know that Pons and Fleischmann were seeing 100% of their cells showing excess heat at the time that they announced? That they had this success until they ran out of the original batch of palladium; they had not even suspected that the effect might be batch sensitive, *so they didn't even keep any of the original material.* The rest is history....

Rossi is optimistic about his own ability to solve problems. But reliability has *always* been the largest problem with cold fusion/LENR. It appears that when a reaction finally works, it tends to poison itself, devices may work for hours or days, generating amazing levels of heat, then they stop working. Other setups seemingly the same don't work, or don't work nearly as well.

Rossi would not be the first inventor to exaggerate reliability and perhaps to fudge some results, all in a good cause. After all, he'll have the problems solved by next week, next month, next year....

This is consistent with Rossi lowering his announced COP, and also with his focus on delivering large units, consisting of many small ones. It is one thing if half the units in a megawatt assembly aren't working, but the ones that work provide enough power to meet minimum specifications, and quite another to sell many individual units, and many of them don't work or stop working quickly.

(And the megawatt unit might work on delivery, but then ....)

Applying this to DGT, we may speculate that they did see sufficient evidence to be certain that there is a heat effect. "But, folks, we have a few details to work out ... "

Details that large numbers of people have worked on for twenty years without success adequate for a commercial product.

Okay, NiH work wasn't previously the subject of such intense investigation, and many people, I think, doubted that NiH even worked. It probably does, but that's not at all the end of the question!

At 01:02 AM 7/19/2012, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote:
The following is all speculation, but I think it’s pretty clear what when down…

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