Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <[email protected]> wrote: Do people here know that Pons and Fleischmann were seeing 100% of their > cells showing excess heat at the time that they announced?
I do not recall that every sample worked. Most of them did. It was no mystery why. This was Pd developed by Johnson-Matthey for hydrogen filters. Fleischmann explained that to anyone who asked, and he gave out samples of the material. As he said: "When Uncle Martin gives you palladium, it works. When you get some other sample, it doesn't work. Think about that!" He gave 4 samples to Mel Miles and they all worked. See Table 10: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MilesManomalousea.pdf JM = Johnson Matthey. Most worked F/P = JM material from Uncle Martin. The hydrogen filter machines themselves produce strong cold fusion effects with deuterium. As far as I know they have every time someone tried one. Read the Storms paper "How to Produce the Fleischmann-Pons Effect." You will see that hydrogen filter material requires a set of characteristics similar to cold fusion. The filters, so they do not leak; cold fusion, so that it loads. See: http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StormsEhowtoprodu.pdf > That they had this success until they ran out of the original batch of > palladium; they had not even suspected that the effect might be batch > sensitive . . . Nonsense. The first thing he ever told me was that the material is critical, and you should ask Uncle Martin for some. By 1989 everyone knew the material was critical. > , *so they didn't even keep any of the original material.* The rest is > history.... > What history? They got more material and it worked fine, as far as I know. When they were in France they ran 64 cells at a time, and all 64 worked. They were all pushed into a boil-off event followed by heat after death. It as all J-M material, in a joint venture with J-M and Toyota. The project came to an abrupt end when J-M and Toyota got into a fight over intellectual property. Years later Fleischmann and I tried to buy a kilogram of the stuff but we could not raise the money. J-M no longer makes it by the old technique but they offered to make some for us. It seems likely that the material made with the newer process will also work. The new process is cleaner and requires fewer toxic materials. > Okay, NiH work wasn't previously the subject of such intense > investigation, and many people, I think, doubted that NiH even worked. It > probably does, but that's not at all the end of the question! That is true. Mike McKubre said this at the recent conference. He said they tried Ni-H at SRI, did not get a significant result, so he abandoned it. He came hurrying back after Rossi made a splash. He re-evaluated Piantelli and others. He now thinks it does work, after all. - Jed
