https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_nationality_law#Birth_abroad_to_one_United_States_citizen




2012/8/8 MarkI-ZeroPoint <zeropo...@charter.net>:
> Good debate!  This is what freedom of speech is all about…
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> “His grandparents were not dumb and knew the benefits of US citizenship.  No
> conspiracy to be POTUS has to be invoked, only that they want their
> grandchild to be a US citizen is good enough a reason.”
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> Agreed.   His mother was Caucasian and from the US (she was born here), so
> it certainly is likely that *if* she was returning  to the USA
> *permanently*, and with baby Barack, she would have wanted for him to be a
> U.S. Citizen.  If I was a parent in that situation, I sure as heck would…
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> I’m sure his parents were NOT thinking anything about their son being POTUS
> someday, obviously, but as explained, there is NO need to bring up the “in
> case he wanted to become President someday” argument… there is reason enough
> by just coming here.
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> If that was you bringing in your newborn, would you not want your child to
> be a US citizen?
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> I must confess, I have only looked at a limited amount of the arguments and
> evidence about the whole issue, so am on the fence so far… perhaps after the
> next election we’ll find out?   Or not…
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> -Mark
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> From: Jojo Jaro [mailto:jth...@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 11:02 PM
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
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> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Blather in the mass media makes scientists think we are
> crazy
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> Straw Man argument.
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> First, the Hawaii authorities are the ones which automatically post all
> births in the newspaper.  During that time, anyone can report a birth to
> Hawaii authorities even if the birth did not physically occur in Hawaii.
> Hawaii authorities did not have to verify the reported birth.  Funny though
> cause that address belongs to the grandparents, not bambi's parents.
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> Second, there is no need to argue that his grandparents secretly conspired
> to make him a citizen because they knew he was going to be president.
> That's a straw man.   His grandparents were not dumb and knew the benefits
> of US citizenship.  No conspiracy to be POTUS has to be invoked, only that
> they want their grandchild to be a US citizen is good enough a reason.
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> But just give me a simple explanation why his Hawaii Vault BC is still
> secret.  He can end this Birther conspiracy movement with a single phone
> call to release his vault BC.  Why hasn't he done it?  All your eloquent
> reasons will not overcome this simple fact.
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> Jojo
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