https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_nationality_law#Birth_abroad_to_one_United_States_citizen
2012/8/8 MarkI-ZeroPoint <zeropo...@charter.net>: > Good debate! This is what freedom of speech is all about… > > > > “His grandparents were not dumb and knew the benefits of US citizenship. No > conspiracy to be POTUS has to be invoked, only that they want their > grandchild to be a US citizen is good enough a reason.” > > > > Agreed. His mother was Caucasian and from the US (she was born here), so > it certainly is likely that *if* she was returning to the USA > *permanently*, and with baby Barack, she would have wanted for him to be a > U.S. Citizen. If I was a parent in that situation, I sure as heck would… > > > > I’m sure his parents were NOT thinking anything about their son being POTUS > someday, obviously, but as explained, there is NO need to bring up the “in > case he wanted to become President someday” argument… there is reason enough > by just coming here. > > > > If that was you bringing in your newborn, would you not want your child to > be a US citizen? > > > > I must confess, I have only looked at a limited amount of the arguments and > evidence about the whole issue, so am on the fence so far… perhaps after the > next election we’ll find out? Or not… > > > > -Mark > > > > > > From: Jojo Jaro [mailto:jth...@hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 11:02 PM > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > > > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Blather in the mass media makes scientists think we are > crazy > > > > Straw Man argument. > > > > First, the Hawaii authorities are the ones which automatically post all > births in the newspaper. During that time, anyone can report a birth to > Hawaii authorities even if the birth did not physically occur in Hawaii. > Hawaii authorities did not have to verify the reported birth. Funny though > cause that address belongs to the grandparents, not bambi's parents. > > > > Second, there is no need to argue that his grandparents secretly conspired > to make him a citizen because they knew he was going to be president. > That's a straw man. His grandparents were not dumb and knew the benefits > of US citizenship. No conspiracy to be POTUS has to be invoked, only that > they want their grandchild to be a US citizen is good enough a reason. > > > > > > > > But just give me a simple explanation why his Hawaii Vault BC is still > secret. He can end this Birther conspiracy movement with a single phone > call to release his vault BC. Why hasn't he done it? All your eloquent > reasons will not overcome this simple fact. > > > > Jojo > >