Michele, a Natural Born US citizen must fulfill 2 things:
1. Must be born to two US citizen parents.
2. Must be born in US soil.
Surely bambi does not qualify for number 1. His alleged father was not a US
citizen
Second, there is significant question as to where he was actually born. He
refuses to release his original vault BC. All we have is a poorly
photoshopped copy of his BC, which is surely a fake.
Jojo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michele Comitini" <michele.comit...@gmail.com>
To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Blather in the mass media makes scientists think we are
crazy
Jojo,
I know US president must be born on US soil.
I do not know enough about Citizenship law to know if the mother was
eligible to confer Citizenship to her son, she was 18 at the time.
Reading wikipedia seems to say she was eligible in 1961, but as we
know wikipedia is far from complete.
mic
2012/8/8 Jojo Jaro <jth...@hotmail.com>:
Michele, two things:
First, the Immigration laws were a bit different in 1963. Stanley Ann
Dunham was too young to have conferred to Bambi U.S. Citizenship at that
time.
Second, Mere U.S. Citizenship does not qualify one to be President. The
founding fathers specifically included "Natural Born" U.S. citizenship as
a
qualification for being POTUS. I trust you know the difference between a
U.S. Citizen and a Natural Born U.S. Citizen. Even if bambi was a U.S.
citizen (that fact alone is in doubt); he would still not be qualified
unless he was Natural Born U.S. Citizen.
Jojo
----- Original Message ----- From: "Michele Comitini"
<michele.comit...@gmail.com>
To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Blather in the mass media makes scientists think we are
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_nationality_law#Birth_abroad_to_one_United_States_citizen
2012/8/8 MarkI-ZeroPoint <zeropo...@charter.net>:
Good debate! This is what freedom of speech is all about…
“His grandparents were not dumb and knew the benefits of US citizenship.
No
conspiracy to be POTUS has to be invoked, only that they want their
grandchild to be a US citizen is good enough a reason.”
Agreed. His mother was Caucasian and from the US (she was born here),
so
it certainly is likely that *if* she was returning to the USA
*permanently*, and with baby Barack, she would have wanted for him to be
a
U.S. Citizen. If I was a parent in that situation, I sure as heck would…
I’m sure his parents were NOT thinking anything about their son being
POTUS
someday, obviously, but as explained, there is NO need to bring up the
“in
case he wanted to become President someday” argument… there is reason
enough
by just coming here.
If that was you bringing in your newborn, would you not want your child
to
be a US citizen?
I must confess, I have only looked at a limited amount of the arguments
and
evidence about the whole issue, so am on the fence so far… perhaps after
the
next election we’ll find out? Or not…
-Mark
From: Jojo Jaro [mailto:jth...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 11:02 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Blather in the mass media makes scientists think we are
crazy
Straw Man argument.
First, the Hawaii authorities are the ones which automatically post all
births in the newspaper. During that time, anyone can report a birth to
Hawaii authorities even if the birth did not physically occur in Hawaii.
Hawaii authorities did not have to verify the reported birth. Funny
though
cause that address belongs to the grandparents, not bambi's parents.
Second, there is no need to argue that his grandparents secretly
conspired
to make him a citizen because they knew he was going to be president.
That's a straw man. His grandparents were not dumb and knew the
benefits
of US citizenship. No conspiracy to be POTUS has to be invoked, only
that
they want their grandchild to be a US citizen is good enough a reason.
But just give me a simple explanation why his Hawaii Vault BC is still
secret. He can end this Birther conspiracy movement with a single phone
call to release his vault BC. Why hasn't he done it? All your eloquent
reasons will not overcome this simple fact.
Jojo
