Fine, if you do not want to accept it, then don't. I've already said it.
Do your own research.
Jojo
----- Original Message -----
From: de Bivort Lawrence
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Birther Myth? or Lomax lies
I repeat, what is your evidence for these bizarre statements, Jojo?
On Jan 2, 2013, at 4:13 AM, Jojo Jaro wrote:
I've already said, you can not enroll into this muslim school that Obama
enrolled in if you were not registered as a muslim. And any adoption of a
child by an Indonesian muslim man automatically makes the child a muslim. That
was the law. Research it my friend.
Jojo
----- Original Message -----
From: de Bivort Lawrence
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Birther Myth? or Lomax lies
Your statements about nationality and about adoption and nationality are
incorrect.
What is your evidence for Obama being "registered as a Muslim"?
On Jan 1, 2013, at 1:11 AM, Jojo Jaro wrote:
While what you are saying about Indonesian schools may be true today -
I am not knowledgeable about the current school system in Indonesia, so I will
not debate that.
While that may be true, it surely wasn't true in the 70's when Obama
went there. Records show he was registered in that school as a muslim.
One more thing, he was adopted by an Indonesian muslim. If he was
adopted to be an Indonesian, he would have automatically lost his U.S.
citizenship and gained Indonesian citizenship and automatically became a
muslim. In Indonesia, you gain the religion of your adoptive father.
Indonesia does not have and never had a "Dual Citizenship" program with the US.
Which means that he would have had to reacquire his US citizenship when he
reached 18. He had to do something to gain back his US citizenship. Which
automatically made him a naturalized US citizen, not a Natural-Born US citizen
required by our constitution.
One of my cousins was in the same boat and he was born about the same
time as Obama. He was born in U.S. soil (New York) but his parents brought him
back to the Philippines. By US law, as a minor, he has no official citizenship
status if there is a question as to his citizenship. In my cousin's case, he
was born on US soil to Filipino parents. Hence, his citizenship status was in
limbo, until he can make a decision when he turns 18. He can choose to be
Filipino or US citizen. When my cousin turned 18, he had to go to the US
Embassy to choose US citizen and get his papers (passport). He is considered a
Naturalized US citizen. A person that has to take action to gain US
citizenship is not a Natural Born US citizen. This is the status of Obama even
if he was indeed born in Hawaii. He would still be a Naturalized US citizen
and hence unqualified.
So, as you can see, Obama is unqualified to be POTUS on many fronts.
The argument about whether he was born in Hawaii or not is just one aspect of
his qualification (non-qualification) to be POTUS.
In a free society like America, such questions about his qualifications
should have been vetted openly. If there was even a hint as to his
qualifications, it should have been settled publicly and openly. Why don't
people take this issue seriously. Even if people think that his BC was
original and valid, people should still be calling for it to be settled once
and for all. Open up the vault copy. No other steps or half measures will do.
Great controversies require great measures to settle. Let the Birthers see it
and it they are wrong, you get the chance to humiliate them to your heart's
content. If I am wrong about this, I'm sure I will have great shame and tuck
my tail between my legs and go away quietly.
Jojo
----- Original Message -----
From: de Bivort Lawrence
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 12:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Birther Myth? or Lomax lies
The earlier posting on "muslim" schools is confused.
Some "Muslim" schools have a curriculum that is based solely on the
Qur'an. This kind of school would only attract non-Muslim students interested
in the Qur'an, or in the culture of Islam.
Some "Muslim" schools have a standard secular curriculum, and are
attended mostly by Muslims, thus confusing some into calling them "Muslim"
schools.
Some "Muslim" schools are merely called such because they operate in
a Muslim country, like Indonesia. This is like calling US public schools
"Christian" because they operate in a predominantly Christian country.
To suggest that President Obama must be a Muslim because he went to a
"Muslim" school in Indonesia is a statement that at best is meaningless.
On Dec 31, 2012, at 4:37 AM, Nigel Dyer wrote:
Indeed. There is a Catholic school in Birmingham, UK, where the
majority of pupils are Muslim
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/birminghams-catholic-school-where-90-of-the-pupils-231115
Nigel
On 31/12/2012 04:40, Jojo Jaro wrote:
Yes, "Christian" catholic schools are more tolerant of other
faiths, but not muslims. You can not go to a muslim school like the one Obama
went to unless you are a muslim.
Before Lomax spins this again; may I simply ask readers to
research this on their own to see which of us both is lying.
Jojo
