In the Bose-Einstein condensation of electrons that surround the nuclear
active site, the positron is annihilated by an entangled electron that is a
member of the condensate. The energy of this event is spread throughout the
BEC ensemble.

The BEC acts as a shield for positron emissions. This is why BEC formation
is so important to the LENR process.

While we are thinking about these things:

With the rule that odd numbered nuclei do not produce LENR reactions
because that would stop the LENR cycle then as follows:

In the alternative cases where an electron, proton or neutron enters the
Ni62 nucleus as follows:

The proton in the Ni62 atom would turn into a neutron producing cobalt 62.

A cobalt/nickel loop would ensue. This would be a valid cycle but according
to DGT not much cobalt is found in the ash.

In the W&L case where a neutron enters the NI atom, an odd numbered nucleus
NI63 is produced. According to DGT, odd numbered nuclei do not participate
in LENR reactions.

In the proton case hen a proton enters the Ni62 nucleus, Cu63 would result
and the LENR cycle would stop.


On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Axil,****
>
> ** **
>
> Copper-62 is an unstable isotope with a 10 minute half-life and an
> unmistakable signature. Rossi has never demonstrated substantial
> radioactivity to independent observers. The Swedes would have seen and
> reported this, since they looked specifically for the signature, but found
> nothing.****
>
> ** **
>
> It is true that Cu-62 was mentioned by Rossi early on, and in his early
> patent application - but AFAIK he has dropped all mention lately, since
> there would be the tell-tale signature on decay, which has not turned up in
> testing.****
>
> ** **
>
> Copper-62 is a positron emitter. Positrons annihilation essentially cannot
> be easily hidden, especially when the underlying reaction is in the 5 kW
> power level. The evidence would have been crystal clear.****
>
> ** **
>
> Focardi encouraged Rossi to have a positron detector at the original demo,
> which he did - but it showed nothing. Thus they dropped the copper-62
> explanation  and also dropped the lead shielding.****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Monday, April 22, 2013 12:02 PM
>
> *To:* vortex-l
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:The Mexican hat****
>
>  ** **
>
> *I am trying to state this as gently as possible without sounding like a
> bully.*****
>
>
> I like that. You are not too hard to take when you are gentle.****
>
> When you are gentle you are more persuasive.****
>
> You may be right about the excess electrons.****
>
> With neutron decay Ni62 transmutes into Cu62 as follows:****
>
> Nickel-62 -> Copper-62, electron, anti-electron-neutrino-> ****
>
> The proton wants to become a neutron again and reconverts to nickel
> through radioactive decay.****
>
> Copper-62-> Nickel-62, positron, electron-neutrino****
>
> The energy for this endless loop nickel/ copper comes from the Higgs field.
> ****
>
> But maybe before copper has a chance to decay****
>
> Copper-62-> Zinc-62, positron, electron-neutrino****
>
> Then through radioactive decay****
>
> Zinc-62-> Copper-62->Nickel-62 with associated positrons and electron
> neutrinos.****
>
>
> So there may not be many free electrons produced. The free electrons will
> be balanced (destroyed) by the positrons produced by radioactive decay.***
> *
>
> In general, a balance in things is a good thing.****
>
> But this balance is disturbed by alpha decay and multiple alpha decay
> (resulting in Be).****
>
> The Ni becomes iron, chromium titanium, calcium and so on.****
>
> ** **
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:*
> ***
>
> Axil,****
>
>  ****
>
> I am trying to state this as gently as possible without sounding like a
> bully. You still did not address the question of "huge amounts of
> electric current" which was a direct quote from you.****
>
>  ****
>
> Since Rossi says that a precision instrument is required to see the emf,
> and since any Radio Shack multimeter will show milliamps – we must assume
> he is talking about microamps. There is no valid reason to go further than
> that.****
>
>  ****
>
> Why do you insist on polluting serious attempts to understand LENR with
> this crap about 10^20 neutrons? You seem to have no grasp of the
> implications of that statement.****
>
>  ****
>
> It only demonstrates that you have no prior understanding of nuclear
> physics.****
>
>  ****
>
> Jones****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Monday, April 22, 2013 10:17 AM
> *To:* vortex-l
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:The Mexican hat****
>
>  ****
>
>
> http://www.e-catworld.com/2013/01/rossi-electromagnetic-force-produced-directly-from-the-hot-cat/
> ****
>
>  ****
>
> Rossi: Electromotive Force Produced Directly from the Hot Cat [UPDATED]***
> *
>
>  ****
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:****
>
> Andrea Rossi ****
>
> January 2nd, 2013 at 9:01 
> AM<http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=771&cpage=5#comment-522231>
> ****
>
> Dear Steven Karels:
> Yes, that is exactly the path we are walking through. Too soon to give
> precise info, though.
> Warm Regards,
> A.R.****
>
> ·  Steven Karels ****
>
> January 2nd, 2013 at 8:22 
> AM<http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=771&cpage=5#comment-522155>
> ****
>
> Dear Andrea Rossi,****
>
> Your previous postings mentioned “direct EMF” coming from the reactor
> core. Could you please clarify? I have heard of possible direct conversion
> to electricity by coupling the energy from a charged moving particle into a
> “transformer”. In general, is this the approach by which you are able to
> extract “direct EMF”?****
>
>  ****
>
> Jones Beene wrote:****
>
>
>                 From: Axil Axil****
>
>                 This is another reason why I believe that Rossi is telling
> the truth about his reactor. He says that his reactor produces huge amounts
> of electric current. So much current in fact that he can tap this current
> directly rather than use heat to steam conversion to produce electric
> power.****
>
> What? Where does Rossi say "huge amounts of electric current" ?
>
> In fact he says that the emf detected required very precise measurement
> instrumentation. This implies microamps, not hundreds of amps.
>
> As usual, Axil is off by orders of magnitude. His 10^20 neutron decay
> garbage is nothing but complete BS.
>
>                 Rossi claimed, on Dec 30 to one his sycophants -
> Dear Bernie Koppenhofer:
> You are touching a very important point: during these very days, and also
> during the more recent tests, we are working on this issue. I think we will
> be able to produce directly e.m.f., but much work has to be done. Actually,
> we already produced direct e.m.f. with the reactors at high temperature,
> and
> we measured it with the very precise measurement instrumentation introduced
> by the third party expert, but we are not ready for an industrial
> production, while we are at a high level of industrialization for the
> production of heat and, at this point, also of high temperature steam,
> which
> is the gate to the Carnot Cycle. Thank you for your good comment.
>
> Warm Regards,
> A.R.****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> ** **
>

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