On May 5, 2013, at 3:52 PM, Eric Walker wrote:

Thank you. I now have a better understanding the logic that has led you to the slow-helium formation assumption.


On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Edmund Storms <[email protected]> wrote:

The CR-39 measurements were not made when calorimetry was done. Therefore, we do not know if the alpha relates to heat production or not. In any case, so little radiation is detected that any associated energy would be too small to detect.

Does the statement "so little radiation is detected that any associated energy would be too small to detect" apply to the so- called "hamburger" exposures, where the chip is completely pitted? Also, since no calorimetry was made, it would seem that as far as the CR-39 experiments are concerned, we have neither a basis for concluding that there is a large amount of alpha flux when there is excess heat nor that there is a small amount of alpha flux when there is excess heat (as you seem to be doing here). It would be really nice if someone could systematically measure the number of pits while using decent calorimetry.

Eric, you need to do some calculations. The CR-39 is an accumulator. The flux, which determines power , is very small during these studies even though the final result looks large. At no time could heat be detected from the reactions producing these products.

The logic is not complicated, although people keep making it complicated. Once you accept this logic, my explanation gets much easier to understand and accept. I have to wonder why people are willing to explore complicated reactions and complex logic while ignoring the most simple possibility.

In the assumptions that go into your hypothesis, there seems to be an implicit model where at low energies you can sort of slide hydrons into one another, with an attendant release of mass energy, and the behavior is different than in the high energy case, where there will either be a collision or they'll fuse.

Hot fusion is a well know process that results when deuterons come together quickly with high energy. The laws of conservation of energy and momentum require the final nucleus to explode in order to release the mass-energy. This process can occur when a crack forms if the resulting charge separation generates a high voltage gradient. This effect is easy to cause. Just hit a crystal of LiD with a hammer and a burst of neutrons will result. Cold fusion is an entirely different process with NO relationship to hot fusion. This is not like your analogy. The water is just acting like water but with a gradual change in property as the velocity of impact increases. CF is not related to HF in any way. There is no gradual change from hot fusion to cold fusion as the applied energy decrease. As the energy goes down, the hot fusion reaction rate simply becomes increasingly small until under normal conditions it does not occur at all. CF and HF are two entirely different phenomenon that can occur at the same time under certain conditions. Trying to relate them has caused most of the confusion. You need to stop thinking about how HF works and start over using a different vocabulary.

Ed Storms

I am reminded of the difference in how water behaves when an object hits it with great force, and when the object is allowed to slide into it or drop into it from a low height. This understanding of the electromagnetic force and of the nuclear force seems to be implied by your hypothesis. I find it a very intriguing approach -- it would be pretty neat if under the right conditions the hydrogen atoms could be slowly pushed into one another, and only at high speeds do they bounce away from one another and provide a lot of resistance. But it will be a long time before I'm willing to adopt this model as a working hypothesis. Even if I found it likely, I think it would be necessary to eliminate other possibilities first, since it is such a departure from current understanding of the strong and electrostatic forces, which, as I understand it, are presented as static properties of the atoms that do not vary with their speed relative to one another.

Eric


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