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http://newenergytimes.com/v2/library/1996/1996Mizuno-IsotopicDistribution-ICCF6.pdf ISOTOPIC DISTRIBUTION FOR THE ELEMENTS EVOLYED IN PALLADIUM CATHODE AFTER ELECTROLYSIS IN D2O SOLUTION T. Mizuno, 'T.Ohmori*, T.Akimoto, K.Kurokawa, M.Kitaichi, K.1noda, K.Azumi, S.Simokawa and M. Enyo" On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: > https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6id5Hf-xMWOYXVjekJCN1ZkQk0/edit?pli=1 > > Results from Piantelli > > > On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I recently posted to Ed Storms this opinion of LENR experimentation which >> show results consistent with what DGT is seeing. >> >> https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2013/04/08/isotope-table-lenr-tool/ >> >> Several medium and heavy elements like calcium, titanium, chromium, >> manganese, iron, cobalt, copper and zinc have been reported as detected by >> several researchers, like Tadahiko Mizuno or George Miley. >> 1. lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MizunoTnucleartra.pdf >> Did you forget about this one in your library? >> >> “Recently, Mizuno, Bockris and others have increasingly focused on >> so-called “host metal transmutations,” that is, nuclear reactions of the >> cathode metal itself. The cathode metal was inexplicably neglected for many >> years. The term “host metal” is misleading. It was an unfortunate choice of >> words. It implies that the metal acts as a passive structure, holding the >> hydrogen in place, cramming the deuterons or protons together. The metal is >> a host, not a participant. The hydrogen does the work. Now, it appears the >> metal itself is as active as the hydrogen. The metal apparently fissions >> and fusions in complex reactions. Now the task is to think about the metal, >> and not just the hydrogen. Theory must explain how palladium can turn part >> of itself into copper and other elements with peculiar isotopes.” >> >> >> http://news.newenergytimes.net/2013/02/26/lenr-archives-illuminate-scientific-mystery-of-century-part-2/ >> >> I consider the fusion/fission idea well justified and on track having >> been supported by many results. >> >> I will document them in detail from your own library if you persist. >> >> How about the fission/fusion results from Rossi and Piantelli, especially >> from Piantelli because of his very good reputation. >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> If this theory from Ed Storms is to be considered universally >>>> applicable, experimental results from DGT cannot be ignored. >>>> >>> >>> These results have to be published in detail and then independently >>> replicated before we can have confidence they are real. There are many cold >>> fusion claims. Some were never replicated and I think most people have >>> concluded they were experimental errors. DGT's results may also be >>> experimental error, in which case it makes no sense take them into account. >>> The theory will be nonsense. >>> >>> >>> >>>> DGT has published their ash assays from their reaction test. They see >>>> both fission and fusion reactions in these results. >>>> >>> >>> Again, we have to know in detail who performed this assay, what >>> instruments they used, and exactly what results they got. Then these >>> results must also be independently replicated. >>> >>> As far as I know, DGT has only sketched out their results, in nothing >>> more substantial than a sales presentation. No details have been provided, >>> such as calibrations. So it is impossible for anyone to take into account >>> their claims in a theory. You cannot develop a theory based on a few >>> details from a sales brochure. You can only speculate, and it is probably a >>> waste of time even doing that. >>> >>> This is also largely true of Rossi. >>> >>> - Jed >>> >>> >> >
