On Sun, 12 May 2013, Eugen Leitl wrote:
Which would be in violation of Rule 2, as well.
How about this part:
"Note that "small-s skepticism" of the openminded sort is perfectly
acceptable on Vortex-L. We crackpots don't want to be *completely*
self-deluding. :) The ban here is aimed at Debunkers; at "certain
disbelief" and its self-superior and archly hostile results, and at the
sort of "Skeptic" who angrily disbelieves all that is not solidly proved
true, while carefully rejecting all new data and observations which
conflict with the widely accepted theories of the time. "
But if you wish to adopt a prior stance of disbelief before investigation,
and then become selective of evidence, and then permanently maintain your
viewpoint against any changes whatsoever, and label this "being skeptical"
...that belongs on some other forum. Try JREF and others listed on my
page at http://amasci.com/weird/wskept.html
This old essay on the scientific attitude hits it exactly:
Keep your bead on the wire
http://amasci.com/freenrg/bead.html
Science is above all tentative. People with "sliding beads" regarding CF
(etc.) are not debunkers. And debunkers are not scientists, debunkers are
the police who know the law and who chase the bad guys. Who then decides
whether a "crime" has been committed: who the bad guys are? That's the
"judiciary." But the Skeptic community has none who can, for example,
globally "write a law" after *extensive openminded investigation,* a law
which declares that CF is True Bunk, and now sends the entire skeptic
community down upon us. Or a "law" saying CF is still not settled and
open to question, and all debunkers are "legally" required to leave those
guys alone and go concentrate as usual on the ripoffs and the
self-promotors of truely dangerous ignorance.
It seems that anything (to put it politely) is on-topic here but
a critical view on LENR.
Nope.
I respond to complaints, and especially to large amounts of traffic coming
from someone using a fake name. If you want to be devil's advocate, just
don't be an avowed debunker, and please include a "sig" to let us see your
CV etc. (Heh, I still haven't added a forum rule about the continuing
problem of people who use fake names to avoid any need to "man up" and
take personal responsibility. Too many need to use fake names for legit
reasons.)
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