From: Edmund Storms
Jones, there is no ash because no one has looked for deuterium. Everyone who might find enough deuterium to detect is focused on transmutation. If they now find deuterium, their favorite explanation will go up in smoke and the patents that claim to need nickel will be useless. I'm trying to get someone to look for deuterium and report the results. So far, no luck. Until this test is made, no conclusion is worth accepting. Hi Ed, Almost everyone agrees that deuterium (and helium and tritium) should be looked for in the ash of this device, but that this probably will not happen soon. Your explanation of why Rossi doesn't want to know this could be absolutely correct. He shoots himself in the foot. Someone else must do this, if it is to be done. If the ratio of H to D in the gas was 6,500:1 when it was filled - and after a week of run-time the ratio was 5,000:1 then that finding would be meaningful. Hydrogen is unlikely to leak preferentially, so the large change in ratio would indicate fusion as the prima facie explanation. However, if protium was fusing into deuterium, which is an extremely rare reaction to begin with, there should be gamma radiation. If you say there is no gamma radiation because this is a novel type of fusion reaction which shows none, then there is still a huge problem (aside from the extra miracle) - tritium. At a certain point, tritium is favored and its decay radiation will be obvious - even after shutdown. yet none shows up, when any decent monitor should see it. You probably do not want to add a third miracle by suggesting that no tritium happens. Thus, the lack of tritium makes the search for extra deuterium of lower priority than it otherwise would be. In the end, if the H/D ratio is substantially different - we will have found something that indicates a novel form of hydrogen fusion, which Rossi's patent does not cover. However, another smart thing to do- if someone besides AR really wants to find out the modus operandi would be to first look for the lower energy photons - EUV. Rossi does not want to do that because of the huge portfolio of prior art from BLP. OTOH, Mills and company might want to do this kind of testing in a replica AR cell, as a way to get royalties from Rossi, in the event that he beats them to market. Many theories suggest the gain could be coming from EUV photons - and it is easier to document them than deuterium, but I doubt we will know form Rossi. I hope that Mills looks at the Ni-62 possibility, in the context of his theory. This could pay off handsomely, Randy . From: Bob Higgins I don't understand why 62Ni would make a difference in the reaction. Are we now seriously considering that the Ni nucleus participates in the nuclear reaction that causes the heat IMO this is a "Mills type" reaction (BLP), involving deep hydrogen redundancy - and the Ni does not transmute into another element. This particular isotope is simply a much better catalyst for deep redundancy at the 300 eV level. This mechanism goes beyond Randell Mills theory into QM and wave function collapse, which Mills rejects. Rossi and Focardi apparently believe that nickel transmutes to copper, but the proof offered indicates otherwise. Others believe that protons fuse to deuterium. There is no proof of that. Many qualified observers, at this stage, have markedly different opinions. However, it is worth repeating that if it is a nuclear reaction - there should be gamma radiation and/or radioactive ash. There is none. Jones