Reading that paper, after following bad science and pseudo-science, remind
me many of those  desperate papers by activists. (by the way some LENR
papers smell the same crackpot taste, so we should be careful)

Here is a moderate article by ecatnews
http://ecatnews.com/?p=2601

it raises some points against that paper, while I would rather point the
very few point to to trash immediately.




2013/6/28 David Roberson <[email protected]>

> This paper needs to have another paper written pointing out how it poorly
> describes the original data.  One look at the temperature output versus
> time curve reveals the serious errors they made.  Note that the simulated
> power input turn around points are far away from the point where the
> temperature output of the cylinder peaks or dips.  This offset in simulated
> power input as compared to temperature output stands out to anyone who
> understands the system.  I would be ashamed to point out the similarity if
> I were the author since the comparison is amateurish.  It would be better
> for all concerned if these guys had the proper knowledge to accurately
> reproduce Rossi's device with their simulation.
>
>  And they even admit that they had to use more input power than Rossi to
> reach their relatively poor shot at temperature matching.  Whether they
> realize it or not, they actually enhanced Rossi's standing by this poor
> attempt.  Of course, as usual, the authors do not have a clue as to how
> heat can be used to control a heat generating device exhibiting positive
> feedback.  Skeptics appear to have a mental block about this issue which
> was so very obvious in the case of Cude and his lack of knowledge.  I can
> not count the number of times I attempted to explain this to him without
> his understanding the principle.  I suppose a closed mind is difficult to
> crack open.
>
>  This paper should be directed straight to the trash where it belongs.
>  Jed is correct, this is not a scientific paper by any stretch of the
> imagination.
>
>  Dave
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>
> To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
> Sent: Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:51 am
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:arXiv:1306.6364 Comments on the report "Indications of
> anomalous heat energy production in a reactor device containing hydrogen
> loaded nickel powder"
>
>  This paper says:
>
>
>> We note first of all that the circumstances and people involved in the
>>> test make if far from being an independent one.
>>
>>
>  This is in a physics paper!?! What an outrageous thing to say. Where are
> they trying to publish, in the National Enquirer?
>
>  That's incredible. Outlandish. And completely false.
>
>  You lose all credibility when you publish this kind of garbage in the
> guise of a physics paper. What is the claim here, that scientists are not
> supposed to know one another? Or maybe it is that people with relevant
> experience and some expertise in a field should not publish papers. That's
> the Wikipedia standard: anyone who knows what he or she is talking about is
> booted out.
>
> The paper itself is also garbage. Look at this:
>
> "Estimating the heat output by a combination of IR camera measurements and
> convection calculations represents a new situation compared to previous
> tests,seemingly imposed by the circumstances(i.e. Rossi) rather than by
> choice."
>
> It was "imposed" by the operating temperature and power of the cell, which
> have been improved. Hotter temperatures and higher power density are a good
> thing. This is a technical advantage. The authors are saying we should only
> test second-rate and third-rate devices which are impractical, commercially
> useless, because the authors -- for no apparent reason -- do not trust IR
> cameras.
>
> - Jed
>
>

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