yes, but saying  a nuclear transformation is a nuclear process is different
from saying it is a nuclear reaction. The latter is a causal theory of
nuclear transformation which emerges from a categorical distinction between
nuclear and chemical forms . I am suggesting there is a third form of
matter which doesn't fit either category.


Harry


On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:

> Is nuclear transmutation a nuclear process: one element being concerted
> into some others? I say yes by definition
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 12:45 AM, H Veeder <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Does it necessarily follow that every mass-energy conversion must have a
>> nuclear _origin_? The answer is no
>> because if the principle of mass-energy equivalency is applied rigorously
>> to chemical reactions, some mass-energy conversion will occur although it
>> can be safely ignored because the amount converted is vanishingly small. So
>> the question is must every _significant_ mass-energy conversion have a
>> nuclear _origin_?
>>
>> The conventional wisdom  is that it must. However there might be a form
>> of matter whose structure is not adequately characterized as either nuclear
>> or chemical,  but which is capable of converting significant amounts of
>> mass into energy, and as a consequence bring about nuclear transformations.
>>
>> Harry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Eric Walker <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Terry Blanton <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>> which is probably a very advisable thing to do: get away from nuclear
>>>> fusion.
>>>>
>>>
>>> From the standpoint of regulators, I think this makes tactical sense.
>>>
>>> From the standpoint of what we know about physics, there seem to be
>>> these options for what is going on (wild order of magnitude guesstimates in
>>> parentheses):
>>>
>>>    1. something magnetic is going on (0.0000000000000000001 eV??).
>>>    2. something previously known and chemical is going on (i.e., < 4
>>>    eV).
>>>    3. something previously unknown and chemical is going on, such
>>>    as f/H (~10–30 keV?)
>>>    4. something nuclear is going on (0.5–30 MeV).
>>>
>>> Which class are "HENI" reactions thought to fall within?  I would have
>>> guessed (4), but perhaps the recent Defkalion demo points to something
>>> lower-powered?  If HENI reactions fall into (4), what makes them not
>>> "nuclear"?
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>
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