When so much heat derived EMF power is concentrated in a soliton that does
not produce a huge flash of light when the soliton is disrupted, might
actually mean that all that power is converted into lots of electrons.  I
am thinking direct light to electron conversion.


On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 3:51 AM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote:

> The only situation that I am aware of is when a high energy photon causes
> the generation of one or more pairs of charges.  You get an electron and a
> positron during each conversion.  This case does conserve charge as
> expected.
>
> Perhaps you are thinking of a case where electrons are separated from the
> positive charge region by infrared radiation scattering although I do
> not believe that there is enough energy in that type of radiation to
> efficiently achieve that effect.  Another idea is that the Hall effect
> might lead to charge separation if a current of high speed electrons
> encounters the supposedly massive magnetic field.  We are in need
> of additional data before either of these concepts can be seriously
> considered.
>
> Dave
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Axil Axil <[email protected]>
> To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sat, Oct 26, 2013 11:41 pm
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Seminal New Energy paper by Kim and Hadjichristos
>
>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_charge
>
> I believe that this excess charge comes from the direct conversion of heat
> (infrared light) into elections.
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 11:33 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Axil,
>>
>>  Would you explain what you mean by the violation of conservation of
>> charge since Rossi only excites the particles with heat?
>>
>>  What if his device separates the charges by some method so that the
>> electrons leave the now positively charged central region?  I once figured
>> a way to extract power from his device by having it eject energetic
>> electrons (or positrons, etc.) from the core into an outer collector.
>>  These particles need to travel against an electric field as they loose
>> kinetic energy.  That converted kinetic energy can be extracted by allowing
>> electrons to flow through a load back into the core.  This appears to be a
>> method of extracting a few watts of DC provided charged particles are
>> emitted from the core and collected on an electrically insulated material.
>>  Of course it would be difficult for the particles to reach the collector
>> unless energetic if they pass through most materials.
>>
>>  Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Axil Axil <[email protected]>
>> To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sat, Oct 26, 2013 11:01 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Seminal New Energy paper by Kim and Hadjichristos
>>
>>
>>
>> By the way, Rossi has reported lots of excess electrons coming off his
>> reactor. This is an apparent violation of the conservation of charge since
>> he uses only heat to excite the particle zoo.
>>
>
>

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