There has been a good deal of discussion on this forum: http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewforum.php
Use the search feature. BTW, you will find a former Vort there, Frank Grimer. I think he believes one might find overunity in second and third order mechanical motion. On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:23 PM, ucar <[email protected]> wrote: > > The RAR gravity perpetual machines (http://rarenergia.com.br) had a design > change between June and September 2013 which can be seen from photos 40 > (14/06/2013) and 41 ( 10/09/2013) where weights on lower arms are > removed/replaced. > The text found there appears to confirm that. This can be considered as a > supporting fact. > > Anybody have a theory about this machine ?

