There has been a good deal of discussion on this forum:

http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewforum.php

Use the search feature.  BTW, you will find a former Vort there, Frank
Grimer.  I think he believes one might find overunity in second and
third order mechanical motion.

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:23 PM, ucar <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> The RAR gravity perpetual machines (http://rarenergia.com.br) had a design
> change between June and September 2013 which can be seen from photos 40
> (14/06/2013) and 41 ( 10/09/2013) where weights on lower arms are
> removed/replaced.
> The text found there appears to confirm that. This can be considered as a
> supporting fact.
>
> Anybody have a theory about this machine ?

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