I've worked with Gambling Industry people.  It has never ended well.
 Hopefully it's not the case with Rossi.


On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Lennart Thornros <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hello Blazoe, I did not understand all you said. I do believe we have
> similar opinions. Hower, I believe you have the partners yo deserve.
> If gaming industry are interested then you know the chances are better
> than 60 to 70 %. Now, identify other people more seriious which can benefit
> from LENR. No, not governm0ent or institutions, they are only betting when
> they have 120%  100 as return on the paper and 20 in thepocket.
> Best
> Lennart Thornros
> On Jan 6, 2014 6:33 PM, "Blaze Spinnaker" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Fair points.
>>
>> Note that I am more mostly referring to Rossi and that LENR+ is currently
>> available in some secret lab somewhere.
>>
>> It's worth noting that much like most people here I generally believe in
>> LENR itself and I am fairly optimistic that LENR+ might be possible at some
>> point, even if in the distant future (60-70%).   For example, perhaps it
>> will require a much more fine grained control over particles and
>> understanding of quantum tunneling to overcome the coulomb barrier.  Or
>> something.   This is all intuition/speculation of course.
>>
>> As for my estimates:
>>
>> I like STM as they're by far and away the most credible institution that
>> has gotten involved in LENR in a serious way.  It's one thing for random
>> individuals to do things, but it's another for groups of people / managers
>> / public shareholder money to get thrown at this.
>>
>> The ARPA-E wasn't a big deal for me.  It was one tiny box in a multitude
>> of boxes.   If ARPA-E is a big deal, than LENR has bigger problems as I've
>> been working on the assumption that ARPA is just hostile to the whole
>> movement from reasons other than scientific.
>>
>> I don't see Duncan as a big deal, more of a failure from an individual
>> point of view.  He bailed on LENR and the big donation, that really speaks
>> more about him than LENR itself.   Maybe he did it for his wife.  Who
>> knows.  I was sad to see it though.
>>
>>
>> Cravens is great.  He helps show that LENR is real.   Toyota and friends
>> did some great stuff there as well.
>>
>> The Chinese thing is interesting and it was my biggest source of
>> excitement.  But then I just read that Rossi has staffed his biz with
>> ex-gambling industry people.     Yikes.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>                 From: Blaze Spinnaker
>>>
>>>                 This is based on
>>> *       STMicro patent (Increased about 4.5%)
>>> *       Cherokee Investments (Increased about 2.5%)
>>> *       Rossi stating third party reports in March (increased 2%)
>>> *       Lack of news from Defkalion (-1%)
>>>                 News seems to be coming in fairly rapidly at this point.
>>> Could be updating this probability more frequently.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If so, then the ARPA-E inclusion of LENR for funding should add something
>>> positive, and the Defkalion departure from Canada should detract.
>>>
>>> Why give so much comparative credence to the STM patent application?
>>> First
>>> off, it was not a very good application in my estimation, and could be
>>> net
>>> neutral. Cravens patent stuff is more meaningful and important. The main
>>> plus is that a major company went to the trouble to file something.
>>>
>>> Robert Duncan moving from Missouri to Texas A&M could go either way, no?
>>>
>>> The Chinese connection could be assessed much higher.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

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